continuation of previous posting but refined a little based on niteflirt conversations...

what do you think of putting a slave in debt?

Making me pay via credit cards. having me take out loans, getting me to the point where i've got the equivalent of a mortage-payment worth of debt that i've got nothing to show for other than a bunch of wadded up kleenex.

maybe even making me take out a second mortgage, selling my car, etc.

Basically, for the next 20 years, i'm paying off debt for something for which there is no concrete, residual value...

incidentally, this is kind of what happened to me except that only $10k of it was on CCs and I've paid off about $6k of it now. I stopped the blood flow in time, lol

I wonder if any domme is heartless enough that when the slave is hopelessly in debt, she would encourage him to go to a loan shark?

I think that's ultimately why i'm attracted to this fetish. I have something broken in me that makes me attracted to ruthless, heartless women who will stop at nothing to take everything I have and leave me homeless and destitute.

Even though my k*ds are grown and out of the house, I used to use that as a measuring stick to see how evil a domme was. If she was willing to fuck over my kids by having me give her money from their savings' accounts or college funds, I knew she was the personification of evil - or was smart enough to push my buttons - probably the latter because I'm guessing most dommes wouldn't be that heartless...

one domme I spoke to wanted to actively ruin my marriage and have me draw down on the shared bank account so that when she and I divorced, there would be nothing left for my wife.

Variation 1 - extremely perverted ruination fantasy I explored through hypnosis, mantra and otherwise was making me impotent with my wife and only able to achieve arousal/climax by paying to jerk off. This manifested itself in many variations including one domme who was insistent on making me addicted to being her toilet and only able to climax by ingesting ****.

Variation 2 - Fantasized about visiting a domme in NYC where she would take my wallet and credit cards and liberally use my money while keeping me caged in a cheap hotel room for the entire time i visited and would then copy a bunch of stock photos to my phone so that I could show my friends all the sights I had seen. The entire time I would subsist on her piss and bread.

Variation 3 - Turning me into a complete social reject so that i literally had no life other than jerking off while paying to watch her videos. In this variation, I had run through a ton of loans and credit cards and was left to stay in a cheap flat with nothing but a notebook computer, and internet connection and a cheap mattress to sleep on. What little money I made driving uber or whatever would be used on rent and food because my regular job would have been garnished to the point where there was little left over.

My fear or maybe morbid desire is to find that pathological domme with no morals or ethics