Due to the recent movies there has been a lot of talk about Dune of late. There is a rather nuanced aura of Femdom around the Bene Gesserit sisters (and damn Rebecca Ferguson is hot). However Frank Herbert wrote 5 sequel novels. In the bloated God Emperor of Dune the bloated protagonist has an all female army called the Fish Speakers which also exudes some dominant vibes.

Then we come to the last two Frank Herbert Dune novels (I haven't read any of his son's works) Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune. In them there is an organization called the Honoured Matres. They are sort of an offshoot of the Bene Gesserit mixed with some Fish Speakers. The image that immediately comes to mind with them is Dominatrix. So much so they are almost a parody. They rule through a mixture of violence and sexual manipulation. Several parts pf the last two books come across as poorly written porn.

So has anyone else here read either of those two books and if so what was your reaction to the Honoured Matres?