Originally Posted By Nomasks
Oscar De La Hoya was fully vaccinated and just landed in the hospital with COVID. And they said vaccines prevent hospitalization.


Again, you don't listen to what the experts actually say. Vaccination REDUCES the likelihood of hospitalization if you get Covid over the unvaccinated. It does not eliminate it.

According to statistics (and data extrapolated from these statistics) in this article from Public Health Insider, hospitalization rates for the vaccinated in King County, Washington per day currently are ~1 in 1,000,000 residents while for unvaccinated residents it is ~1 in 12,500 (or 80 in 1,000,000). Death rates are even more stark with daily deaths among vaccinated people being ~1 in 4,000,000 residents (0.000025%) while ~1 in 125,000 for the unvaccinated (0.0008%). To put it in more relevant terms since the % seems so small... If no one was vaccinated in the US, then the daily death toll based on these numbers would currently be 2,680 vs only 84 if everyone was vaccinated.

Obviously the raw data is limited to one specific area of the country (unfortunately the media has done a piss poor job of actually reporting information to decision off of rather than vitriolically screaming "get vaccinated" or "its a hoax", so it's very hard to find relevant data) but it is current. Meaning, relevant to the Delta Variant based on current transmission rates (which is fungible and grows exponentially when unchecked) and with the current therapeutics being available (early use of Regeneron’s monoclonal antibodies to prevent hospitalization, Remdesivir, Dexamethasone and supplemental oxygen once in the hospital).

My point is that anyone who actually looks at the data can clearly see that 1) Vaccinated people, like Oscar De La Hoya, do still end up in the hospital and can die & 2) The vaccines clearly work in reducing your risk of being hospitalized, like Oscar De La Hoya, or dying from Covid.
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