It would take a lot for me to be in vanilla 24/7, even if I could sneak away to get my freak on. Most of my close friends are in the lifestyle scene. It is in my blood. I agree that men who have a bdsm orientation but stay in vanilla marriages must be very much in love with their wives. They say that Freddy Mecury was straight emotionally but sexually attracted to men. Go figure. We are all freaks one way or another. blush