Originally Posted By Spark
There has been a trend where submissive men are described as betas and dominant males are described as Alphas. Alphas are often portrayed as strong and muscular. I get it in the context of fantasy of cuck play. But I also thought it was a strange distinction to break men into two categories based upon their interest in submission.

To me the stereotype of a traditional alpha male comes off as self center and egotistical.

I don’t really like either term but to me a man who focuses on a womans needs first, treats her with respect, makes her life better, helps to provide for her financially, emotionally, and physically would be an aloha male and that seems to describe quite a few submissive men


I think you have to consider things in the wild. Of two men, which one is going to survive better with limited resources like food and water and the threat of predators? Which one is more likely to be willing to eat his neighbors if it came to that? Yeah, someone who earns more money is better off and has the provider status, but that may not necessarily be who a woman wants to be with or have a sexual relationship with. If a man is successful financially and is someone who would be willing to eat his neighbors if it came to that and his familiy starving, then you have a complete package right there.