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#8786 - 12/17/19 05:37 PM Sex work or sexual abuse? US Representative Pressley, activists debate decriminalizing prostitution
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Sex work or sexual abuse? US Representative Pressley, activists debate decriminalizing prostitution

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/1...2l3H/story.html

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A growing movement to decriminalize prostitution in cities and states across the country — recently embraced by US Representative Ayanna Pressley — has feminists and women’s advocates sharply divided on the best way to protect women’s rights.

Should prostitution be considered a job like any other, whose practitioners could be empowered by workplace protections if it were made legal?

Or is it inherently harmful — a form of violence predicated on racial, gender, and income inequality from which women should be set free?

Female empowerment through sex work has become a surprising liberal rallying cry amplified worldwide by billionaire George Soros, whose Open Society Foundations funds organizations that promote it. Groups from Amnesty International, the Human Rights Watch, the ACLU, and even the Women’s March have embraced it, and measures that would decriminalize all aspects of prostitution are being pushed in Washington, D.C., and New York state.


“Decriminalizing sex work would improve the health and safety of sex workers and put them on the path to greater stability,” Pressley said in an interview. She has embraced the argument that sex work is the only work available to some marginalized people — particularly transgender women of color — and that they would be less vulnerable if they could better advocate for themselves and report crimes committed against them.

Other women’s advocates think that’s naive and unrealistic — a “Pretty Woman” take on an ugly industry — and indefensible in an era of fierce pushback against other forms of gender-based exploitation.

“In this world of #MeToo, where people are finally standing up to men in power who are asserting power and control over women who have less than them, why are we also talking about legalizing that exact dynamic?” asked Alexi Ashe Meyers, a human rights attorney in New York who opposes full decriminalization. “How come if actual money changes hands it’s all of a sudden OK?”

Meyers, a former assistant district attorney in New York and the wife of “Late Night” host Seth Meyers, last month launched a competing campaign. That so-called Equality Model — also known as partial decriminalization or the Nordic model — calls for eliminating criminal charges only for sex workers but continuing to prosecute pimps and buyers who take advantage of them. The sex workers themselves would have access to services to help them leave the business. (Pimps and brothel owners would not be subject to prosecution under full decriminalization.)

The ground between the two alternatives is vast and contentious, as Pressley is about to find out.

Even Suffolk District Attorney Rachael Rollins — who endorsed the contours of Pressley’s broader criminal justice reform plan and who campaigned on ending prosecution of many low-level crimes — stopped short of endorsing decriminalization of prostitution in a statement to the Globe.

Pressley embraced decriminalization last month as part of her People’s Justice Guarantee, which aims to dismantle discrimination within the criminal justice system, reduce jail and prison populations, and eliminate wealth-based discrimination. Her announcement surprised antiprostitution activists who had gathered for an international summit in Roxbury to begin strategizing to combat the decriminalization campaigns they anticipate.

“If she spent any time and lived with the women in our house, I can’t imagine that she would continue doing this,” said Cherie Jimenez, who once worked in the sex trade and later founded the EVA Center, which provides services for women escaping the life, in Brighton.

Pressley had previously taken the opposite stance. In 2013, she co-wrote a Boston Globe op-ed demanding that sex buyers be held accountable. “Prostitution is the end point of all sex trafficking — sex buyers perpetuate a violent, exploitative industry that fuels organized crime,” she wrote then.

“She used to be an ally,” said Jimenez, who agreed with Pressley’s broader aims to reduce prison populations for other crimes.

However, Jimenez noted that most of the women in her program’s safe house come from Pressley’s district.

“It’s almost like a disconnect in not realizing what are the real lives of women that are most impacted, most vulnerable,” Jimenez added.

Pressley says her support for decriminalization is a continuation of her life’s work: She is still pushing for continued investment of resources to support survivors and to combat human trafficking (commercial sex compelled by force, fraud, or coercion), which would remain illegal. But she is also advocating for women who are willing participants in the sex trade, likening it to her advocacy for other workforces rendered invisible because of societal biases — such as food service workers or housekeeping staff.

Noting that she is a survivor of sexual assault, Pressley said she remains “committed to aggressively combating trafficking, coercion, and exploitation while also carving out space to meet the needs of people engaged in consensual sex work — particularly those engaged in sex trade as a means of survival,” she said.

Pressley’s decision was influenced by meeting with such advocates as Michael Cox, policy director of Black and Pink Boston, a prison abolition group that focuses on people who are LGBTQ or HIV-positive. He impressed upon her that sex work is a matter of survival for many LGBTQ people that even a so-called Equality Model would jeopardize.

“If you take away their source of income, street-based sex work, how are you going to support those women? Those women are now more vulnerable,” he said. “This is kind of patronizing, actually: ‘We know what’s best for you. Go be hungry over there.’ ”

Partial decriminalization would not do enough to lessen the stigma and risk, said Caty Simon, a low-income sex worker and activist who co-edits a website by and for sex workers.

“If we cannot advertise legally, safely, and independently, then we’re easy prey for exploitative third parties,” she said in an e-mail. “If clients are harder to find and negotiate with because they are criminalized, a pimp’s promise of procurement begins to sound more tempting.”

Pressley also heard from sex workers who had recently championed decriminalization in Washington, D.C., which the city government considered, but did not pass, in November.

“This is my body. Nobody should be telling me what I can and cannot do about it,” argued D.C. advocate Tamika Spellman, a transgender sex worker who met with Pressley. “We live in a country where casual sex is a celebrated act. If I charge for that casual sex it’s a criminal act? That does not make sense.”

Spellman said the D.C. measure failed largely because of concern that children would be vulnerable to trafficking after decriminalization — a concern she said was baseless.

But Yasmin Vafa, who opposed decriminalization in D.C., pointed to a 2018 study that found one in five men who had never paid for sex could envision doing so if the circumstances were right.

“The nature of the sex trade is you’re never going to have as many willing participants as the never-ending demand requires,” said Vafa, cofounder and executive director of Rights 4 Girls. “Traffickers will seek to meet that demand with vulnerable bodies.”


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#8787 - 12/17/19 05:40 PM Re: Sex work or sexual abuse? US Representative Pressley, activists debate decriminalizing prostitution [Re: Soapy]
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“If we cannot advertise legally, safely, and independently, then we’re easy prey for exploitative third parties,” she said in an e-mail. “If clients are harder to find and negotiate with because they are criminalized, a pimp’s promise of procurement begins to sound more tempting.”

Pressley also heard from sex workers who had recently championed decriminalization in Washington, D.C., which the city government considered, but did not pass, in November.

“This is my body. Nobody should be telling me what I can and cannot do about it,” argued D.C. advocate Tamika Spellman, a transgender sex worker who met with Pressley. “We live in a country where casual sex is a celebrated act. If I charge for that casual sex it’s a criminal act? That does not make sense.”

Spellman said the D.C. measure failed largely because of concern that children would be vulnerable to trafficking after decriminalization — a concern she said was baseless.




I recently read an article about the situation in D.C..

It gained steam since residents in Logan's Circle started experiences exactly what they didn't want as a result of making it hard for sex workers to advertise online.

Sex workers started walking and working their streets, often with the results of children on their way to school finding people finishing up.

Its just like prohibition or marijuana legalization, the more people try to suppress it the more they get the side effects they least want.

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#8792 - 12/18/19 02:16 AM Re: Sex work or sexual abuse? US Representative Pressley, activists debate decriminalizing prostitution [Re: Soapy]
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It is interesting that politicians claim to be experts in the adult industry. They should talk to people who have worked in it for years before forming their opinions. I felt the same when 2257 came down the pike. No video producer wanted to film with minors. No video producer wanted minors to view their videos. If the government was looking for safe guards, with pure intentions, they should have talked to the mega porn producers in California and, Vegas to assist in coming up with comprehensive safe guards. I will say that I am happy to hear a handful of politicians are speaking up for sex workers. It is something that I didn't think would happen in my lifetime.

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#8794 - 12/18/19 06:25 AM Re: Sex work or sexual abuse? US Representative Pressley, activists debate decriminalizing prostitution [Re: Cheyenne]
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I've heard your reply before, that the central problem is that lawmakers aren't talking to sex workers.

In the article there are some who are extending long term help to victims of sex trafficking. So, some of them are talking to sex workers.

I'm the next stage of the problem is that lawmakers do not realize that there are a diversity of sex workers in a diversity of work situations. A streetwalker is not a cam girl, is not a prodomme etc. One may be abused by pimps, one might be doing to survive, one may feel exploited, one may like the work and squeeze it into their schedule despite having a good vanilla job.

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#8795 - 12/18/19 07:00 AM Re: Sex work or sexual abuse? US Representative Pressley, activists debate decriminalizing prostitution [Re: Soapy]
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I agree with everything you've just said. My point is that everyone would be better served if lawmakers took the time to understand the industry they seek to regulate.

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#8802 - 12/18/19 03:31 PM Re: Sex work or sexual abuse? US Representative Pressley, activists debate decriminalizing prostitution [Re: Soapy]
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Originally Posted By Soapy

I recently read an article about the situation in D.C..

It gained steam since residents in Logan's Circle started experiences exactly what they didn't want as a result of making it hard for sex workers to advertise online.
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Its just like prohibition or marijuana legalization, the more people try to suppress it the more they get the side effects they least want.


I believe I read that same article, and I absolutely agree. SESTA/FOSTA and the End-Demand models are just ignoring historical evidence that prohibition does not work.

In May, I went to Albany with DecrimNY, Make The Road NYC, Red Canary Song, and other groups working for full decriminalization to lobby at the capitol about repealing the "Walking While Trans" law. We tied this to decrim, and were told the End Demand people (aka "Equality" or "Nordic" model supporters) had been there the week before, arguing the other side of this article. It infuriates me that these people call themselves feminists and human rights activists while actively working to take away options and rights from the most marginalized groups.

Believing that people will stop wanting something because you outlaw it is asinine. If anything, they should be pushing for legalization and regulation. The pimps and traffickers they are so worried about already operate in the shadows. Taking away safe methods of operation for everyone does not solve this problem.

On a hopeful note:
- On trans remembrance day, state senator Brad Hoylman did pledge to repeal the law banning "loitering for the purposes of prostitution," the "Walking While Trans" ban disproportionately used to target trans women of color, in 2020. This is a great step for those communities, and points to our being listened to at least a bit. Link below:

https://queenseagle.com/all/trans-rememb...while-trans-ban

- There were mutterings about SESTA/FOSTA among the aides, reporters, and other lobbyists while I was at the capitol building. Just this week, some representatives (including E. Warren) have presented a study that will be used as the basis to repeal the law (that she voted for). Mixed feelings about this in the community from what I have seen on twitter. See my post below for more
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#8804 - 12/18/19 03:51 PM Re: Sex work or sexual abuse? US Representative Pressley, activists debate decriminalizing prostitution [Re: Cheyenne]
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Originally Posted By Cheyenne
My point is that everyone would be better served if lawmakers took the time to understand the industry they seek to regulate.


Absolutely. What a concept, huh?

On Twitter this week, Rep. Ro Khanna and Sen. E Warren announced a bill "to investigate the unintended consequences of SESTA/FOSTA. This landmark study will be the first of its kind #IDEVASW19"

Cue panning over rows of sex workers with signs pre-FOSTA/SESTA telling them exactly what those consequences would be.

https://twitter.com/melissagira/status/1206966994618200064?s=20

Warren voted for it, so to see her change her stance could be significant. She also authored a bill to take away banking rights from anyone involved in the sex trade. Does she recognize the harm in this as well?

Rep Khanna voted against FOSTA/SESTA, along with only three other representatives concerned about rights and freedom of speech on the internet, despite the bad optics of voting against what was presented as an anti-trafficking bill. Below is a link to an article on his website entitled: "SEX WORKERS WARNED EVERYONE ABOUT FOSTA-SESTA"
https://khanna.house.gov/media/in-the-ne...eginning-listen

Basically, they are voting to do a study so they can vote to repeal the law for which they originally voted. American politics, everyone.
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