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#8781 - 12/17/19 12:11 AM
Re: Pain and pleasure - diametrically opposed?
[Re: The Thomas]
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Registered: 07/08/16
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Loc: Detroit
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Yup.. I think that's the one
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#8782 - 12/17/19 04:08 AM
Re: Pain and pleasure - diametrically opposed?
[Re: Kneel4Her]
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Registered: 12/08/19
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Pain is necessary. Maybe not to pleasure, but to my scene. I don't get into whether it's the opposite of anything. That kind of construction doesn't connect for me.
Winter makes me want the spring. Spring wouldn't be nearly what it is without that midwestern winter. A long difficult run is what makes the ending great. Not simply seeing 13.1 on my gps watch. It needs to be difficult. Surmounting the desire to quit has to be part of it.
Someone will say that's our puritan mindset. But that's not worth any more to me than calling things opposites. I can only report and try to understand my own intuition in these matters.
A session without a flogging, without marks, without rope burns and cuff-marks, without chastity -- doesn't click for me. Much as I wish to fuck She'd give me a key to the device in the week (or 2 weeks... She's so mean...) beforehand or not insist on leaving marks, the session won't work without them. And we both know it.
So it doesn't really matter what an MD says is the opposite of what. What matters is that there's no spring without winter.
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#8785 - 12/17/19 02:21 PM
Re: Pain and pleasure - diametrically opposed?
[Re: AspX]
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Registered: 10/31/15
Posts: 127
Loc: California
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What about forced (instructed) Karaoke? 100% I'm calling my safeword
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#8800 - 12/18/19 02:51 PM
Re: Pain and pleasure - diametrically opposed?
[Re: Swordfish]
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Registered: 10/06/19
Posts: 104
Loc: GA
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What about forced (instructed) Karaoke? 100% I'm calling my safeword Absolutely agree!
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#8803 - 12/18/19 03:33 PM
Re: Pain and pleasure - diametrically opposed?
[Re: Kneel4Her]
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Registered: 12/07/19
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Given my circumstances in life, pain has become one of the doorways, if not the primary, to pleasure and euphoric release for me.
I've never really seen myself as a risk taker, but when I look back on it, some of the activities I did as a younger person were certainly risky and dangerous. I avoided the "obvious" dangers like skydiving and mountain climbing and shopping on Black Friday, but I loved to partake in just about anything fast ... i.e. cars, off-road ATV's, etc.
I'm still learning about myself ... about my likes and interests in the world of BDSM ... but I can unequivocally say that pain and pleasure go hand-in-hand for me.
Oh, and yes ... I freaking *love* spicy food!
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Fear, anxiety, arousal & pain; all are emotions & sensations. Feel them, experience them, surrender to them & learn to accept them.
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#8905 - 12/27/19 06:47 PM
Re: Pain and pleasure - diametrically opposed?
[Re: AynsToy]
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Registered: 10/06/19
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Thanks for all of the interesting replies. Sexually I am definitely a submissive and a masochist but my relationship to pain is complicated. I don’t enjoy it but I need it. This is why I find the topic so fascinating. In a BDSM context, some people hate pain, some love it, and some need it. I think I simultaneously hate it and love it. Which really doesnt seem to make sense, but I find myself craving it, in the moment(s) before it happens I'm fearful of it, and when I experience it, it's a cocktail of emotions that is hard to explain. I avoided the "obvious" dangers like skydiving and mountain climbing and shopping on Black Friday, but I loved to partake in just about anything fast ... i.e. cars, off-road ATV's, etc.
I'm still learning about myself ... about my likes and interests in the world of BDSM ... but I can unequivocally say that pain and pleasure go hand-in-hand for me. DemonVoxx: Black Friday shopping Now that is living on the edge! I agree with you, even though I'm still very much learning, pain and pleasure go hand-in-hand.
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