This forum desperately needs some CPR. To that end I am going to share a fantasy I have been developing for more than a month. It has variations. It is not something I simply must do ASAP but there is a possibility I will do one of its variations even though I realize it will be expensive (so I will definitely not be doing it frequently)

It starts with my doing at least 3 sessions with Mistress Good. A good chemistry is established between us. She is a Strict but Fair mistress who mixes some sensual with the corporal.

Then I am kidnapped by another domina, Mistress Evil. In most variants I have no idea in advance what she even looks like. I will note that I have never done a kidnap scene. Mistress Evil is the enemy of Mistress Good. In most variants she has a female slave who is her accomplice. The primary reason for my kidnapping is that I possess some information that will allow Mistress Evil to kidnap Mistress Good. So this turns into an interrogation scene where she tortures the information out of me (and interrogation is something else I have never done before) (in one variant I foolishly give her some false info at first. When Mistress Evil finds out that it is false she makes me regret doing that and of course gets the correct info out of me. Until she gets the correct info I do not get a safe-word)

So in the next phase she and and the accomplice tie me up and run out and capture Mistress Good. Mistress Evil tortures Mistress Good in order to force Mistress Good to act submissive. Mistress Good hates being submissive so she is defiant at first but the fiendish tortures of Mistress Evil eventually breaks her and she is forced to perform extremely humiliating submissive acts she finds repulsive. I am forced to watch this (in some variants I am forced to assist a little) knowing with deep shame that I am responsible for the suffering of my beloved Mistress Good.

So I am curious if anyone has ever done something like this. It also seems to have some potential for a clip.

Interesting... Definitely could be a good clip scenario!

Yes, let's get some discussions going here! It's a great board!

And be sure to post if you ever pull it off.

Thanks for responding. We really do need to get things going here again.

Thomas,

Great fantasy but kidnapping scenarios are always extremely difficult to play out in a realistic way because of others seeing what is happening as well as the entire idea of consensual nonconsent. However, as long as you are willing to understand that portion must be role-play rather than feeling totally real, I think it is entirely possible to work out (although it would certainly be expensive).

I would think you would need to find a switch who has many Domme friends to act as mistress good. Explain the fantasy at the beginning and make sure she is interested then do your multiple sessions over a few weeks or months. Once you are both ready, give her valid timeframes over a week or two where you will be at a certain location. mistress evil could then show up and signal your "kidnapping", and you consenting, by using pre-defined phrases (the ideal would be at your own home with an attached garage that would allow mistress evil to tie you up and put you in the back of a van or trunk of a car without anyone seeing it or you knowing exactly when it will happen).

You could then be transported somewhere to play out the rest of the scenario just as you described, although I think that would take an extended period of time (at least overnight, if not a couple of days). I would think this would require a decent size deposit to set up and for also for you to have the full payment at whatever the pre-defined location is (either stored in a pre-defined way or as "Mistress Good's money" that you're forced to give up before the kidnapping).

Fantasies are amazing to be able to play out but because of the time and complexity involved, and thus the amount of planning and effort on the multiple Dommes part, I would think that the cost for this would be 5k at least (the Dommes can correct me if they think I am wrong... or just cause they know I like "correction" from a Domme). That cost factor is the reason I would never do anything like this, since I would get more out of the 10 different sessions I could have for the same price. However, I can understand why someone would be willing to do this.

Let us know if you ever decide to put it together.

Asp

You raise good points. Yes kidnap scenes present a series of problems. And often they seem to suffer from pointlessness not unlike a Rossini opera where the high point is the overture. What is intriguing with this fantasy does make some sort of sense (at least as fantasies go which is not a very high bar) at every stage

Yes Mistress Good should be a switch or at least once worked as one and can accept being abused by a woman. And yes she is going to lose all her clothes when Mistress Evil captures her. Though it would ruin things in her preliminary sessions if she were even to hint of switching with me.

This is very much in line with some of the MindFucks I have done and there is a sub that contributes on the forum that has been a part of a few "kidnappings". I am going him to nudge to see if he will add his thoughts.

Asp is right on target with the pricing. Most of My MFs run in the 3-6K range, in large part due to the planning and prep. Anytime part of an event takes place outside of the controlled environment of a dungeon a great deal of care and planning must be invested. This is especially true with kidnap scenes and I have learned that what can go wrong will go wrong, so you really have to do a "dry run" to iron out the kinks. To make sure MFs go smoothly I have bribed valet personnel, pre-paid exotic dancers, had meetings with store/club managers - you get the point.

Most of My kidnap scenes have not been overly dramatic and they were not meant to be the high point of the scene, but it is kind of fun if the sub doesn't see it coming or is on edge for days wondering when it's going to happen. One "snatch" opportunity for you might be when you are leaving Mistress Good's dungeon, if the environment is right there. With the abundance CCTV it's a good idea to have a consent form on your person if you do this in a public area.

These events also require a good bit of trust on all sides and are best done with at least one of the Dommes being someone you have sessioned with previously.

I absolutely want to hear the juicy details if you put this together.

(rubbing back side where a handprint is glowing red) interesting manifestation of a ‘nudge’!

My thoughts…. I like the frame work of the fantasy. The good chemistry is important. Keeping it vauge is also helpful, it prevents “topping from bottom” and it also prevents any stifling of the Domme’s creative thought processes. Mistress Ayn is right (as usual) about the need for a good bit of trust between all sides. Stepping into the back seat of a car to be handcuffed and blindfolded can be exciting in fantasy, but it is also frightening. Stepping into the dungeon of a Domme that you have never seen before can be scary, but you do have some control there – you know where the dungeon is; what she looks like – unless it is in the lobby of a D.C. hotel! – and you know her name. When kidnapped you know none of these things. I remember thinking – what if someone else grabs me?? That’s when the nerves began to get to me but I thought about who put it together and calmed down and it turned into one amazing experience – both times!
From my side, I think a frank discussion of what you wish, for how long and limits are absolutely essential for this kind of scene. And the sub should understand that things WILL go wrong. It will not be smooth and seamless like at the movies; but it will be an experience you’ll not soon forget.

Mistress Ayn,

Thanks for the feedback. The idea is that Mistress Good essentially drives the whole process. I get to know her and do 3-4 sessions with her to see if there is the right chemistry. I trust her judgment to pick Mistress Evil and the henchwoman. And at least the former should be someone Mistress Good is very familiar with. Because I have no idea what the two other women look like it should be much easier for them to surprise me.

Mistress Good should pass on Mistress Evil what she has learned about me during the prelim sessions.

As a once maybe twice project I can afford it.

Hi subfroggie.

You raise good points. Yeah I am aware of Murphy's Law. To some degree it applies to all sessions but I can see how "kidnaps" would be particularly prone. However I think it was Voltaire who said, "Perfection is the enemy of the Good". Subs who foolishly expect Perfect sessions usually are disappointed and go back to Fapland and their porn clips.

El Thomas

i have always longed to be part of a MF Production with Mistress Ayn and Her cleverly arranged band of cohorts. The issue for me is unaccountable time.

However, i have been the beneficiary of some very intense MF's in longer sessions (i.e. overnights ) with Mistress Ayn.These sessions wereand are the results of a long and respectful realationship netween Mistress Ayn and myself. They occur becasue i trust Her completely and i arrive at Our/our sessions with an open mind and no advance expectations. i cannot imagine, and am deeply dissapointed that it is highly unlikely that i will ever be able to be in a one of Mistress Ayn's extended MF Productions.

i imagine these are the sessions where both one's big head and little head explode and a new level of submission becomes a new state of mind and is forever etched in the sub's mind.

All of us who serve as subs need to realize that the more elaborate and longer sessions like those that Mistress Ayn described and plans are extremeley complex to develop and script. She is a now a Dominatrix, a safety & security manager, a script writer, producer and director. She does all that and manages the needs of the sub and Mistresses, and the extras with everyone's privacy, safety, and security always first in Her mind.

As they said in Spinal Tap sometimes you need to go to 11, and if you plan to play in the range abouve 10 you need to be very confident in who you trust to manage that scene.

Complexity adds a lot of risk and the sub needs to have a firm grip and belief in the Domme's ability to professionally manage this scene. Mistress Ayn's description of how She manages everything in advance , and does a dry run is a tribute to Her professionalism and Her concern for the sub's safety and privacy.

i envy those with the time to step up to this level of play.