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#1700 - 07/27/16 02:25 AM Suit yourself [Re: pussywhippedboy]
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Totally keep everything the same. You obviously know much more than any of us in how prodomination and videos work.

I regret taking time to try to explain things.
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#1701 - 07/27/16 06:21 AM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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Originally Posted By Mistress Ayn
The camera alone that I shoot with costs almost $3000. The user manual is as thick as your arm. With that camera we use a stabilizer, different lenses and a variety of lighting options. . . . What you propose: a sub using a cheap camera (because those are the only ones he can possibly figure out how to use without formal training), poor or no lighting and we haven't even talked about sound yet - would turn out a product so poor that I wouldn't want to put My name on it.

It's amazing to Me how people think so little goes into filming a halfway quality clip.


It's great to hear from a relatively new-to-the-field BDSM video producer who cares about technical quality. I went through my video phase when Leda/Nu-West was the standard to beat for content, but the quality of the video, audio, and editing was dreadful. But in those days, $3,000 bought a couple of tape-based camcorders and a table lamp. And their earlier productions were shot on 8mm film and transferred to video with a camera pointed to a screen rather than a real film chain.

I suspect that there's still a market for the 5 minute one-take videos shot with a phone and put up on Clips4$ale for five bucks. Hopefully, there's also a market for a well shot and produced video as well. If I was still buying videos, that's what I'd go for.

Got any good OTK F/M spankings in your catalog yet?
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#1705 - 07/27/16 09:53 AM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: OwwItHz]
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Originally Posted By OwwItHz
I suspect that there's still a market for the 5 minute one-take videos shot with a phone and put up on Clips4$ale for five bucks.


That is actually the going rate for a well produced 5 minute clip on C4S. There is a market for just about anything on C4S, but how big a market is the question. Because I do live sessions, it's important to Me that My clips reflect the quality of My sessions. If I were just selling clips as a part time income, I might not care as much about quality.

The bar for what is expected in BDSM porn has been raised. My equipment and expenses are nothing compared to those of FemDom Empire or Club Dom, as an example. Thankfully the cost of good equipment is lower than it was in the era you mention and editing digital is a much simpler process.

Originally Posted By OwwItHz
Got any good OTK F/M spankings in your catalog yet?


Very few. I produce what sells and what I get the most requests and custom sales for - that's strapon primarily. But here are a few tagged as OTK:

http://clips4sale.com/74153/mistress-ayn...ch/OTK+SPANKING
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#1706 - 07/27/16 10:21 AM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: pussywhippedboy]
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I think Domina M meant that it was a sub fantasy that we have everything paid for. It certainly isn't Mine. I will leave that to the FinDommes that make a living doing that.
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#1707 - 07/27/16 03:08 PM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: pussywhippedboy]
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Originally Posted By pussywhippedboy
As for hair and makeup, I thought girls do hair and makeup all the time anyway. As for a cameraman, a slave from her stable can do it for free.


To put it in perspective, I have shot video clips for many Dommes as a service to them in exactly this kind of set up with a very basic lighting package, $400 digital video camera, low-cost/free location (rented dungeon, hotel room, outdoors or using backdrops in a room at their house). For this we use whatever subs are willing to appear on camera. However, that is a very amateur video production which is only a small step above POV (and in some cases actually is POV). Basically, you are talking about 6-10 minute clips where "editing" consists of adding titles and possibly a watermark before rendering and posting for sale.

That is a completely different level of production than what either Domina M or Mistress Ayn are putting together, which is much more professional in nature. For those types of shoots, they don't want me, or anyone of my caliber (even if it is higher than just a sub from their stable, if I do say so myself), to play "camera bitch" for their shoot. Rather they want a real videographer who understands exactly how to light a scene based on a combination of the location, the activity and their costume (lighting and the shot itself are very different for foot worship of stockings beneath a throne vs. corporal punishment on a cross in shiny latex). They also don't want to do their own hair and makeup, which may have to change based on both their costume and the lighting as they switch between scenes and activities.

For those types of professional productions, they need to shell out real money to achieve what they want rather than having me shoot it as a service to them after they do their own makeup. They also need high quality video subs who understand the point of the shoot, how/when to play to the camera, how to act without overacting to an activity (as an example, "severe" ball busting can be done by using the bottom of the ass as the main contact point to allow the scene to go on much longer, but the sub must still react properly... not saying that this is always the case, but it is one of the tricks of shooting BDSM) and that actually look very good on camera.

For the shoots where I have been the "camera bitch", what you are proposing is absolutely enough and as long as you can understand your role in the shoot (basically a prop that is barely more valuable than a good paddle) then you will be asked back time and time again. However, to qualify for the types of professional shoots that Domina M, Mistress Ayn and others put together, they need the types of assurances that previous contacts/sessions, recommendations from Dommes with the same production values, or a portfolio of your work provides since your performance can ruin the entire day for all involved.

Just my opinion/observations having watched this thread and having had the experience of being on both professional sets and running amateur style video shoots.

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#1708 - 07/28/16 06:07 AM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: AspX]
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Originally Posted By AspX

To put it in perspective, I have shot video clips for many Dommes as a service to them in exactly this kind of set up with a very basic lighting package, $400 digital video camera, low-cost/free location (rented dungeon, hotel room, outdoors or using backdrops in a room at their house). For this we use whatever subs are willing to appear on camera. However, that is a very amateur video production which is only a small step above POV (and in some cases actually is POV).


I've seen the term "POV" used to describe porn videos (and also documentary videos), but what does it stand for in this context? When I see POV, recognize it as short for "point of view," as in from the perspective of the narrator or film maker. While POV productions are single-camera-ambient-light, that's not what defines POV.

Explain the meaning of your acronym, please.

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#1710 - 07/28/16 09:03 AM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: OwwItHz]
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You are correct that I meant "point of view" when I said POV. The context of what I was referring to by the term POV is single shot where the Domme "breaks the 4th wall" and directly addresses the camera as if it was the person viewing the video. The "point of view" is the viewer, not the narrator or film maker. This can be done either with or without a camera person.

In the context of my post, this type of clip may involve more than one Domme but is never a scene that involves play activities (which is where you would need a film sub to participate). I have shot clips using a Go Pro camera on my head as I have been flogged/whipped as well as performing foot/leg worship. I have also shot whippings from over the shoulder/between the legs of a sub on a St. Andrews cross. These are probably the types of things that would fall into your description of POV from my impression of your comment, but it wasn't the type of filming that I was referring to in my post.

Finally, I think lighting is irrelevant to whether something is considered POV because even Dommes who set up a camera on a tripod and speak directly to it, may light the scene rather than just using the ambient light in the room (or may even have a "set" in their house which is pre-lit where they shoot these types of clips).

I hope this helps to make clear what specific types of clips I was referring to when using the term POV.

Asp

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#1712 - 07/28/16 09:32 AM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: pussywhippedboy]
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Great clarifications, Asp. Thanks!
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#1713 - 07/28/16 09:44 AM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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Total off-topic aside here... but I still find it weird that I get a little giddy when a Domme I respect gives me praise for something I did, even when the praise is just a comment on the internet.

So, thank you Mistress Ayn

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#1715 - 07/28/16 09:49 AM Re: I Seek Video Opportunies - I'm Serious [Re: pussywhippedboy]
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I think that makes you a very good boy. At least My kind of good boy. smile
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