After having to remove a great deal of their content and making changes that hit them in the wallet, their response was to cut the payouts to their stores by 50%. These folks are the scum of the earth. They got their start by stealing content. After a while, they allowed video producers to have a percentage of what they had stolen from them. Now, rather that accept that will make few less million dollars a year, they drastically reduce their payouts? There are some producers that have put all of their eggs in one basket with them. Porn Hub is like the mafia. These are really crummy people.

I had no idea about the back story there. For providers, that really does suck. I've been there, but I've also been to iwantclips and clipsforsale. Are those two legit in compensation to the providers?

Also, iwantclips seems to not like any of my credit cards these days. Not sure if it's related to all this upheaval.

Clips4Sale was founded by a man who was into the scene on a personal level. He was always been incredibly fair and considerate to everyone. In recent years, he sold to a larger company- at least partially. I don't know the details but am pretty sure he still has some control. Even now he is still available, even to the point of offering his private cell phone number, to anyone who needs assistance or advise. Great man. They have never allowed pirated content. I am pretty sure that Iwantclips, also, has never allowed pirated content.

As far as the credit cards being decline, one of the things that C4S had going for it was a seamless roll over of merchants. If one declined the card because it was an adult purchase, it automatically rolled to an other one, and then another one and however many it took. That was the genius of the founder, Neil. So, it isn't Iwantclips, denying your purchase. It is Visa and Mastercard. Every year, they become more and more difficult for adult businesses to work with. They call it "Scrubbing," where they commonly flag adult purchases more often than mainstream ones. We've probably all had mainstream purchase, like vacuum cleaners or lawnmowers flagged for fraud. Visa/Mastercard, just turn up the volume on the scrutiny of adult purchases.