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#12026 - 10/17/20 04:41 AM How can anybody rationalise such extreme violence and degradation?
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I saw this video today: https://xhamster.com/videos/vintage-japanese-femdom-naomi-asano-14089623. Couldn’t finish it. Made me sick.

Do you really think such extreme violence and human degradation is okay as long as it’s consensual? Someone who consents to be degraded like that needs medical attention and anyone inflicting such pain on other human beings must face criminal justice.

If this is what has become of humanity, I would rather die but it is not as easy as it sounds.

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#12027 - 10/17/20 05:28 AM Re: Talk About Being Degraded [Re: WTF20]
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I couldn't watch it either. That far crosses the line and I'm a pretty open minded person.

As you posted this from a pirate site, I want to point out how much stolen content has hurt the FemDom industry. You are supporting a web site that was lined their pockets from robbing hard working women. The pirates are now making more money from my content than I do and, I'm not the only one. Talk about being degraded....knowing men are willing to turn a blind eye to such robbery for a free jerk of is pretty bad. It is good that I retried from sessions before the piracy became common place. Doing a session with a man who had no more respect than to support pirate sites would give me the creeps.

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#12032 - 10/17/20 11:26 AM Congratulations on your first post [Re: WTF20]
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Welcome to The Buzz.

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#12033 - 10/17/20 12:06 PM Re: How can anybody rationalise such extreme violence and degradation? [Re: WTF20]
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Originally Posted By WTF20
Do you really think such extreme violence and human degradation is okay as long as it’s consensual?


My answer is, yes and no. The whipping at the beginning was incredibly unsafe because the Domme had very little control over the quirt and wasn't avoiding the areas of the body that you need to when doing impact play. My guess is that is why Cheyenne couldn't watch it and being that unsafe is not ok even with "consent", since consent to activities still assumes that the Dominant has some clue about what they are doing.

However, I didn't think the actual whipping itself was that extreme or violent in its intensity compared to other ones I have seen. It was just really sloppy and uncontrolled in a very dangerous way. As for the rest, I am not into FTT so I kept jumping ahead when she did brown to see if there was something else or the whipping and "full toilet" is what you meant by the "extreme violence and human degredation" (there wasn't anything else that I saw).

Full toilet is a valid fetish for those who are into it, which is why there is the FTT forum specifically dedicated to it on this board. So, my answer to your question is that I do think all activities in the video are fine between consenting adults (even if the execution of the whipping wasn't) and neither the Domme nor the sub needs either help or to face charges for being into their kinks.

My opinion might change on the charges if the whipping did cause a level of physical harm that required hospitalization but those should only be on the level of criminal negligence.
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#12038 - 10/17/20 12:28 PM Re: Talk About Being Degraded [Re: Cheyenne]
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Originally Posted By Cheyenne
I couldn't watch it either. It crosses the line for my comfort and I'm a pretty open minded person.

As you posted this from a pirate site, I want to point out how much stolen content has hurt the FemDom industry. You are supporting a web site that was lined their pockets from robbing hard working women. The pirates are now making more money from my content than I do and, I'm not the only one. Talk about being degraded....knowing men are willing to turn a blind eye to such robbery for a free jerk of is pretty bad. It is good that I retried from sessions before the piracy became common place. Doing a session with a man who had no more respect than to support pirate sites would give me the creeps.

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#12039 - 10/17/20 03:52 PM Re: How can anybody rationalise such extreme violence and degradation? [Re: WTF20]
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I thought this session looked fairly tame. I actually got a little hard from watching this great video and came. Thank you. I would have felt better paying for this clip though.

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#12049 - 10/18/20 02:04 AM Re: How can anybody rationalise such extreme violence and degradation? [Re: John_Bolton]
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I don't want to piss on anybody's parade here, but in the same way we find certain things in ancient times as signs of barbarism and savagery I am certain future generations will look at our era and will have their heads explode in shock.

I would have written a scathing essay but this is not the right place.

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#12065 - 10/19/20 02:22 AM Re: How can anybody rationalise such extreme violence and degradation? [Re: WTF20]
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Originally Posted By WTF20
I don't want to piss on anybody's parade here


Thank you for that.... Parades are truly sacred rituals that generally includes spectators who aren't into piss play so that kind of extreme degredation really isn't appropriate in this forum.
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#12079 - 10/20/20 03:15 PM Re: How can anybody rationalise such extreme violence and degradation? [Re: WTF20]
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It's consensual and safe. Unless he's too ashamed to use the safe-word, maybe shame is more common in japan.. Japanese have a reputation for being kinky, young and old. I wouldn't be surprised if the masochist enjoyed it.. Knew a japanese boy from high school, who used to play-fight against girls and always play-lose - especially laughing off the attacks to his groin, covering his groin with his hand like hiding an erection. Wouldn't be surprised if he had regular ballbusts by his soccer coach, he often stayed after soccer practice to clean the field together with her.. I never asked him and he probably wouldn't tell.

I'll use short sample clips of japanese tamakeri. Japan has a trade surplus with U.S, and most studios are owned by japanese men, not women, maybe that'll makes you people feel better about pirating them. (soccer coach was light brunette! not an asian lady)

https://thisvid.com/videos/brutal-ballbusting-by-japanese-queens/

https://www.ballbustingtube.com/video/1965987/solid-kicks

https://www.ballbustingtube.com/video/1966024/lefty

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5af8a7d23c806

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph594387d77113d

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5dc50e2ea9462


They truly are kinky in general, but it revolves too much around older men and younger women.. Which is changing with more recent waves of BDSM, where younger men are joining with their balls exposed. Historically, japanese porn filter/censor genitals, that's why ballbusting videos from japan are almost always wearing underwear, younger men are doing more full exposure CFNM.

Traditional japanese ballbusting videos ends with the man still in his underwear laying on the floor and the woman standing by. While younger male models(18-30) are nude, erect and uncensored, ending with handjob/footjob/sex, cumshot if you're really lucky. You may think uncensored genitals are normal for porn, but for japanese porn industry and culture, it's a big thing, almost unheard of until recently and japanese CFNM + ballbusting further the FemDom envelope to edge of taboo kink.

Relatively recent uncensored wet vaginas and cumshots are considered scandalous. More scandalous are cumshots from teen cock, almost non-existent, there's an age hierarchy in Japanese culture for what's acceptable and that's men 30+ and women under 40. If you're a domme in U.S and a real japanese teen visits, you're in for rare eye-candy if he squirts that fountain of youth, so gather your friends to watch that unicorn. I heard from a few sex-workers in Osaka that cum from american caucasians are slightly different texture, color, weight and smell compared to the japanese.

I studied in Japan for a 1 year exchange program, there's a red-light district in almost every city, it's funny how they still censor porn... 2 japanese boys went to California and came back to brag about their time with white american cougars (no idea if FemDom or vanilla, but american women are usually same size or bigger than japanese men, the imagination would be interesting). Those boys refuse to have sex with japanese women 12+ years over their own age.. I guess being the same ethnicity invokes feelings of "incest with aunty", sending shivers down their spine. In 2nd year of Osaka University, more than half the boys and girls were still virgins, it's a really shy society. I heard there are more virgins in Tokyo.


Edited by ryancbtbb (10/20/20 05:16 PM)

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#12140 - 10/27/20 05:40 AM Re: How can anybody rationalise such extreme violence and degradation? [Re: ryancbtbb]
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I noticed a few of these things myself in Japanese movies, mainstream and porn, but you have a much better understanding. Basically a lot of what we are doing here is pushing the envelope on the taboos of our society, and taboos are very much related to culture.

As far as I understand kissing can be shocking for Indians, a naked face as significant as a naked body to some Arabs and while if you are looking for an escort Thailand is a much better place than here the number of options except gender that you have is much reduced.

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