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#11850 - 09/28/20 10:43 AM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: Cheyenne]
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I am sorry to hear that. Prior to knowing this, most men would assume we are at a golden age of porn with all the content out there and no viruses if you watch on a MacBook. Plus virtual reality now. Back in 99, I used to use the Sega Dreamcast's webbrowser to go on teenx.com or whitehouse.com. we've cum a long way since then.

Pornhub lacks alot of good content. Xfatnasy.tv seems to have more, but I have noticed some producers have been able to reach out and get videos taken down.

It seems alot like most other things in life... if you're not a big fish with alot of money, you have no pull, sadly.

I think the best thing may be to try to create some niche content and sell custom made clips first to try to recoup a decent amount up front. Some areas where the industry is lacking and men could soon be jacking to are female domination of couples. This is the new niche.

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#11851 - 09/28/20 11:06 AM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: John_Bolton]
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I understand you are coming from a good place but you really don't know what you are talking about, other than from a client's perspective. Porn Hub and many sites will take content down, within 48 hours, if the video producer can find it. The pirates don't make it easy. Instead of calling a mistress by her name, it is "Lady in red latex whips slave." I've spent thousand of dollars on services who remove content but, it is never enough. I did my own DMCA removal for a while. It is like pissing in the wind because there is SO much of it and, it is hidden.

The founder of sites like Porn Hub are multi millionaires by pirating videos from hard working women. It is not excusable. Some of my friends do niche and custom videos. It works for their needs. It wouldn't be worth a lot of people's time though. There isn't enough in it to a put a quality production together. If someone is shooting with a tripod or personal slave...they may pick up enough to pay their electric bill here and there. Even before piracy, it wasn't worth my time to do this. I tried for a while, in the early years...and while the requests were fun...it just wasn't worth setting a day of sessions aside for.

Do what you want. I'm far past being outraged over men who have no problem stealing. But, having lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, over the years, and seeing other people lose the same to big money, pimp like characters, I've no respect for the viewing of pirated videos. Everyone is different, but I could not, in all good conscience, partake in pirated content of any kind, know that it was harming someone.

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#11852 - 09/28/20 11:25 AM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: Cheyenne]
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Well of course my perspective is from a client and porn viewers perspective. I kind of just figured the women in the film appreciated the notoriety/fame that came from men viewing the content.

Those big sites do seem bad. I guess they make their money off all those ads that litter the screen or appear before the film.

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#11853 - 09/28/20 11:37 AM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: John_Bolton]
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Originally Posted By John_Bolton
I kind of just figured the women in the film appreciated the notoriety/fame that came from men viewing the content.


Oh my god... At least own your shit

Make the argument that people are self serving and that 99% of people (including all the women making videos) would download and listen to MP3s, make mix tapes, take and keep video tapes/DVDs for their personal use, or look at pictures on tumblr/Pinterest back in the day...

Not, these producers do it just so some random dude can physically see them without any attribution or financial benefit.
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#11856 - 09/28/20 02:18 PM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: John_Bolton]
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Originally Posted By John_Bolton
Well of course my perspective is from a client and porn viewers perspective. I kind of just figured the women in the film appreciated the notoriety/fame that came from men viewing the content.

Those big sites do seem bad. I guess they make their money off all those ads that litter the screen or appear before the film.


LOL. Women do not appreciate "Notoriety" of being jerked off to by some guy who supports a site that stole from her and is getting rich from it. How pathetic do you think the ladies in this business are? "I feel so special! A free loading wanker jerked off to my hard earned content and wealthy, pimps made money from it. Yay me!" Are you serious?!

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#11857 - 09/28/20 02:43 PM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: Cheyenne]
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In all fairness, some of the dommes I have seen in person for sessions were dommes I viewed content beforehand. I saw it like this... if I enjoy jerking off to their videos, I'll probably enjoy a session. If I can't cum, don't session. I saw it more as an ancillary cost of business on their end, similar to free samples at a mall food court or test driving a car.

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#11858 - 09/28/20 03:15 PM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: John_Bolton]
Cheyenne Online   content

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You are living in your own little world of justification. Doms who have the talent and desire to make it in the session business don't need to bow to piracy and "Auditions." But, if it makes your iron willy happy, that is your choice and conscience. At this point, one more guy disrespecting women in this business doesn't really matter.

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#11860 - 09/28/20 04:41 PM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: Cheyenne]
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Well honestly, the only real thing that fixes this is for no new content to be made and people to realize what happened and come up with a new way. I haven't run out of clips to jerk off to yet, but I have repeated some of them, so I do think you're spot on that not much new stuff is available and I may have to buy from the clip sites soon to keep it new and interesting.

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#11862 - 09/28/20 06:34 PM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: Cheyenne]
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Perhaps a bit tangential to the discussion, but I’ve found lately I’m spending less time on both C4S and the pirate sites and more on Only Fans. I’ve been enjoining OF sites, both kink and vanilla. It’s more personalized, and constantly changing. I also find the IM functionality makes customs much more accessible. It seems like that is the direction the industry is heading. I find the OF content a bit hit or miss, but the same can be said of clips. Overall, seems more aligned with broader consumer trends, IMO as well. Obv, OF content can be pirated as well, but perhaps a bit more of a barrier to piracy then C4S?

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#11863 - 09/28/20 06:51 PM Re: Men Watching Pirate Video Sites [Re: Chi61]
John_Bolton Offline
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I have purchased some OF subscriptions. I just wish the clips were longer. I've had to jerk, get close, then rewind back and hope I can explode

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