More problems for OnlyFans

Posted by: Mistress Ayn

More problems for OnlyFans - 03/14/24 01:00 PM

A lot of creators, including me, hate OF, but this press and what could arise from this lawsuit could have a negative impact on all fan sites.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/onlyfans-sex-legal-cases

The case of Sammy is particularly disturbing, but I don't know how it got by the OF screeners. I had a video with just a guy's hand rubbing my foot - that is literally all you could see of him was his hand - and I was fully clothed. They kicked it almost immediately. Yet they can't catch a rape where the girl is clearly saying "no". Plus, back in 2022 (I think) they started requiring anyone appearing in a video or photo to also be a creator - which means they are vetted and have their own "channel" on OF. Just submitting an ID and model release wasn't enough. I suppose the men could have uploaded another woman's ID and faked everything else - including a bank account. If that's the case, I don't know how you stop that.

40% of the other 120 cases were "revenge porn". I don't know how you stop that either. Many suggest that OF may go to strictly solo POV content. That is the only content they allow from me anyway, and for the most part that is what is on there as far as I can tell.

What are you guy's thoughts on this?
Posted by: Chi61

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/14/24 04:42 PM

I’m not surprised some stuff slips thru. Human review is almost always flawed. I doubt the reviewer job pays well, is likely off shore somewhere, and some (not all) reviewers likely don’t give a fuck about it. It’s always seemed uneven to me on OF. I’ve seen some ballbusting videos there are pretty hardcore, but you can’t even use the word ballbusting in a message. Makes zero sense. They seem to hate anything fetish or kink related. I’ve pretty much dropped off the site, I just follow one vanilla provider anymore and I’ll likely drop that soon. Loyal Fans is much better from my perspective as a kink/fetish connoisseur . Personally I’d be happy to see this put OF under and see other sites remain but definitely could have wide spread implications. Legislatures love this shit but rarely make reasonable and effective laws on it (imo, not to go into politics)
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/14/24 04:52 PM

Yes, yes and YES!

I said I would stay on OF until they kicked Me off. I only stay because some subs just won't leave it and I don't put much time in it. It wouldn't hurt My feelings if it dropped off the face of the earth tomorrow - but I agree about the implications.

LoyalFans is a MUCH better site and they actually act like they care about kink providers. I have only good things to say about them and I have been there pretty much since day one. They deserve their success and every time there is fallout on OF, they just get bigger - which I love.
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/16/24 03:02 AM

Originally Posted By Mistress Ayn
I had a video with just a guy's hand rubbing my foot - that is literally all you could see of him was his hand - and I was fully clothed. They kicked it almost immediately. Yet they can't catch a rape where the girl is clearly saying "no".


Someone rubbing your foot was removed? On what grounds? Were you being trolled? I think some of these people are on power trips. My experience being suspended from Twitter is a very clear example of that.

I would assume that they have people who specifically eye sex workers and adult entertainers, so our content is immediately reviewed. If this was just some amateur account maybe they don't queue those up right away. Or maybe someone let it through, for reasons of which we could speculate.

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What are you guy's thoughts on this?


I'm exasperated by the ways in which our wonderful, creative, sexy community is exploited for another entity's gains, then systematically censored and removed, and we just keep putting up with it. Platforms have done it over and over. If everyone agreed to a mass exodus, taking our content and all the money with us, it would send a clear signal about our boundaries and power. Because, now, they all know they can get away with the ways in which they exploit us. "Thank you, sir, may I have another?"
Posted by: Madam Jess

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/16/24 10:04 AM

I have never cared for Only Fans in the first place. Their rules literally read that they can remove any content for any reason. Incredibly arbitrary. I only opened one because I need content for advertising and to claim the screen name. Mine was actually deactivated for lack of posting a couple of days ago and I don't really care to do anything about it.

Agreed LoyalFans has been way better.
Posted by: DommeLynx

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/16/24 03:40 PM

I was banned from onlyfans because someone ELSE wrote a message to me breaking tos. They literally locked me out of my account, stole over $800 from me, and wouldn't let me tell any of my fans I was banned. Fans thought I deleted my account and ghosted them. It was awful.

Years of work, POOF, gone in an instant. I encourage everyone to leave, they're looking for any excuse to get rid of swers now.

I've had no issues with Loyalfans.
Posted by: Soapy

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/16/24 04:28 PM

That is completely horrible!

I'm sorry that happened to you.
Posted by: Cheyenne

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/17/24 08:18 AM

From what I hear, these type of sites start off engaging the adult business and get their financial footing. Then, they ditch the adult market and switch to mainstream. Merchant accounts are so tough of the adult businesses. That may be a factor. It is lousy and immoral that they stole money from you.
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/17/24 10:22 PM

Originally Posted By DommeLynx
I was banned from onlyfans because someone ELSE wrote a message to me breaking tos. They literally locked me out of my account, stole over $800 from me, and wouldn't let me tell any of my fans I was banned. Fans thought I deleted my account and ghosted them. It was awful.

Years of work, POOF, gone in an instant. I encourage everyone to leave, they're looking for any excuse to get rid of swers now.


I'm so sorry. I'm furious on your behalf. Mostly because they stole your money. It's like organized crime.

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I've had no issues with Loyalfans.


Does anyone know who runs this? Obviously, we don't want this to be just another cycle of lure in adult entertainers, make money off them and boost our presence, and then ditch us.
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/18/24 11:41 AM

I met the owner of Loyal Fans at some event here in Europe but I don't remember his name. He is well liked by everyone and is very generous with promoting/sponsoring FemDom Events - eg: FemDom Summit, FemDom Ball, etc.

I moved to LF when AVN shuttered. I had concerns about a number of things because I didn't want to invest the time I had put in AVN and have the same results. They actually put me in touch with their legal team and were quite open in answering me. My experience has only been positive.

It's generally recommended that you keep at least 2 fan sites going so you will still have one going if one bans you or closes. Personally as a session Domme, I doubt you have time for all that. I know I didn't. Of all of them out there, LF is the best in my opinion and if I had to pick one, it would be it. I hope this helps.
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/18/24 11:47 AM

Someone needs to file a class action suit against these thieves. I have heard, but can't confirm, that they just keep the money as opposed to returning it to the clients. Their reasoning for keeping creator's money is that you violated their TOS, so it's not your money. Well, I don't think it is theirs either. If they aren't going to give it to you, they should return it to the customer.

If they end up doing this to me, I know an attorney in Atlanta that specializes in class action cases and he is adult work friendly. I really think this would be right up his alley.

I highly recommend anyone that has an account with them to sweep the money as soon as it hits the threshold.
Posted by: Lady Velvet Steel

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/18/24 01:38 PM

LoyalFans is much more open to BDSM content plus their website is actually way better and more functional than OF and you can also have a videostore on your page. Sadly traffic is much lower than on OnlyFans, but hopefully that will change.
Posted by: Ms_Gia_Peccato

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/19/24 06:57 PM

OF has been stealing from SWERS ever since its inception. It began as a Findom's idea (her name was Goddess Lindsey.) Her boyfriend designed the site, and she got customers for it as she had a lot of credibility in the online scene. Shortly after her idea and IP proved her product had market reach, he stole it and created Only Fans.

OF has never been SW friendly and has been stealing SWER work since its beginning. The best thing to do is to ask clients to chargeback and to pay you directly (if they're trustworthy.)
Posted by: Komodo

Re: More problems for OnlyFans - 03/20/24 03:47 AM

Sorry to hear about the abuses done by OF. I never liked it and complained about it for years but I did use it, the only way to reach some content. At the time it was pretty liberal about content, almost as much kink and BDSM as on Twitter. I think it is a sign of the times that the society at large is very righteous and judgmental and it is hunting season all year around for SW. Most venues come under attack sooner or later.