Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC?

Posted by: Jupiter Lake

Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/14/22 07:41 PM

I'm new to the area and I am looking for a Mistress to potentially form a long term training relationship with. I respond well to genuine sadists who inflect pain for their own enjoyment but most of all I am looking for someone who can establish deep psychological control, who will break me down and then push me hard to satisfy Her own very specific requirements.

I unfortunately can't take marks and would love to find someone who is able to perform the magic of administering hard cane strokes without leaving marks (it is possible!). Alternatively a cattle prod has been equally effective in the past to rapidly modify my behavior.

I would be grateful for any recommendations.
Posted by: langerr

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/14/22 08:22 PM

"administering hard cane strokes without leaving marks (it is possible!)"

No
Posted by: The Thomas

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/14/22 08:49 PM

Originally Posted By langerr
"administering hard cane strokes without leaving marks (it is possible!)"

No


Concur
Posted by: bdsmlover

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/14/22 09:17 PM

Which are the props that can be used for strict punishment without leaving marks?
Posted by: Jupiter Lake

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/14/22 11:53 PM

I've received this. It was a very long time ago but it happened. Her name was Mistress Helena and she worked out of Angel Stern's in NYC. I think she retired in 2000. She was an absolute magician with a cane. After an hour of solid heavy caning I would walk away with just some redness but no welts.
Posted by: langerr

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/15/22 06:20 AM

Rubber paddle, the thicker the better.
Posted by: Jupiter Lake

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/15/22 12:24 PM

A cattle prod.
Posted by: Jupiter Lake

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/15/22 12:34 PM

I also received a caning like this from Goddess Hayden in the mid-2000s in NYC. I think she retired a long time ago. I've seen videos of Cybil Troy give a hard caning without causing any marks.

I may be remembering inaccurately but someone explained it to me once: Apparently the cane needs to be brought straight back up from the point of contact with the body without any lateral motion. Apparently it's the lateral motion (dragging) that causes the welts. It also needs to be brought straight back up using a rapid flick in the wrist so that the tissue, nerves and blood vessels can rapidly uncompress.

I can't verify that this is true. I'm a switch, but I've never really learned how to use a cane properly. This also may simply be a lost art in which case I just have to accept that I'll never be on the receiving end of a caning again.
Posted by: Jupiter Lake

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/15/22 12:47 PM

I haven't watched this but I'm sure it contains a long list: https://justinecross.gumroad.com/l/invisible_pain_with_justine_cross
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/18/22 03:15 PM

Marks vary from bottom to bottom (pun intended) but if you hit hard enough, most anything will leave a mark. You can minimize marks by doing a very thorough warm up and bringing lots of blood the surface of the skin. This acts as a cushion. Wearing pantyhose during a caning will also minimize marks but often the cane just glances off the tight hosiery and it's a bit disappointing, at least to me. The cane leaves marks by "wrapping" the skin around the cane and the tightness of pantyhose helps prevent this - but it is not fool proof. If you absolutely cannot be marked, stick with electrical.
Posted by: palmer

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/18/22 08:47 PM

Lady Helena -- Austrian (I think), short dark hair that she later died blonde? I sessioned with her a number of times at Angel Stern's. She was one of my favorite mistresses. Nice to see her name pop up here.
Posted by: MissMary

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/19/22 09:03 AM

At first glance I thought this said strict high school protocol. It gave me flash backs to the Catholic schools that probably made me the kink freak I am today. laugh
Posted by: Jupiter Lake

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/19/22 11:29 PM

That's Her! It always puts a smile on my face when someone else mentions her.
Posted by: Jupiter Lake

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/19/22 11:35 PM

Thank You for the explanation. I think You're right. For the heavy stuff the way to go is electrical. Someone tried really heavy bastinado on me once but ha caused some (thankfully temporary) nerve damage that caused me to limp for a few months. It didn't however leave any visible marks but it's definitely not worth the risk of a more permanent injury arising from a repeat experience.
Posted by: Jupiter Lake

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/19/22 11:36 PM

My English prep school probably had something to do with my wiring as well.
Posted by: MissMary

Re: Strict High Protocol Slave Training in LA or OC? - 06/21/22 09:57 AM

Yep. I must say that all of the torture of high school is worth the fun I'm having now. blush