D/s BDSM Story

Posted by: furfan

D/s BDSM Story - 07/21/21 09:03 AM

The thread about D/s in Movies got me thinking about the same thing in novels. I suspect I am in the minority but I would far rather read a good book than watch a video or a movie.

As I've posted before it is very hard to find erotic novels featuring BDSM in the F/m context while still providing a decent plot, interesting characters and good dialog. Even better are authors that create a world and then write multiple full length novels each featuring different characters from the world with other members of the cast in a supporting roles......think the "BDSM Club" genre.

Some romance novelists do a decent job of this (think 50 Shades but actually well written with a better storyline) but they are overwhelmingly the M/f, Alpha male and submissive female genre. Even multi book series using the BDSM club setting (quite a common trope) usually only offer 1 F/m out of 8 or 10 books at best with the rest being M/f......and even when they do it often ends with the Domme agreeing to a compromise relationship where the male sub has more control.

Candace Blevins' Safeword series features really hot and very explicit/detailed BDSM scenes and often full or at least part time TPE but sadly it's all M/f. The TPE scenes that last several days really push my buttons ....if only the gender roles were reversed. frown

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074CFF786?ref_=dbs_p_mng_rwt_ser_shvlr&storeType=ebooks

She also wrote a series called "A Darkish Faerie Tale" ....paranormal but lots of BDSM and D/s featuring the Winter Queen (Queen Mab) as a pretty kick ass Domme playing with slaves and various prisoners.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J2TRSLR?ref_=dbs_p_mng_rwt_ser_shvlr&storeType=ebooks

I really wish I could find something like Blevins' books with the gender roles switched to F/m.

I guess there are far more women reading this stuff than men and 99% of them want the 50 Shades "surrender to the Alpha Dom" genre.

Sadly, like my fur fetish, my interest in BDSM F/m literature (as opposed to video clips) seems to put me in a pretty tiny minority.
Posted by: MsRoseWoods

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/21/21 10:20 AM

I'll bet your fetish would go over great at a PETA convention.
Posted by: furfan

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/21/21 10:32 AM

Originally Posted By MsRoseWoods
I'll bet your fetish would go over great at a PETA convention.


Well, the wanting to be beaten part would probably work out great. grin
Posted by: NameNotFound

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/21/21 05:18 PM

Kind of different from the topic but anyway.

I have never been a fan of reading fiction. I find it much more relaxing to watch a movie than read a story book. Probably because reading a story book reminds me of school assignments which is literally opposite of relaxing.

But I would love to read a book about based on life of an actual prodom. Preferably an autobiography. I would love to hear their stories about how they got started, how they discovered their kinks, all the memorable things that happen in their careers,the challenges they faced and basically anything.

Maybe most doms don't have a life interesting enough to write a book about, and I'm being too dramatic. I don't know. But I would love to know.
Posted by: furfan

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/21/21 07:27 PM

I haven't read this yet but I probably will at some point. I believe she worked quite awhile as a Pro Domme and then was in a lot of the English Mansion videos.

https://www.amazon.com/There-More-Story-...mp;qid=&sr=
Posted by: The Thomas

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/21/21 07:28 PM

I will start by again mentioning Leopold von Sacher-Masoch's novella Venus in Furs which was inspired by a RL F/m relationship he had. He too liked his mistress to wear fur.

Meanwhile Victorian England produced loads of porn with flagellation one of its favorite themes. Mostly this was F/m Some of it can still be found

In the 70's and early 80's a typical porn shop had a rack of porn novels. Nearly half of these were illustrated with very explicit drawings A wide variety of sexual excess was covered. This included BDSM I would say 70% had only M/f and F/f. Of the rest some had a mix of F/m and F/f while others were a three way blend of M/f, F/m and F/f. The quality of writing varied. Some of it was awful. The most talented author was FE Campbell but his stuff was always M/f mixed with F/f

In the late 90's two women who were bisexual switches strongly recommended Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty trilogy (a 4th book has been added rather recently) Rice covers all bases in the series and that includes M/m as well as F/m, F/f and M/f. I rather liked the first book, The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty but in the middle of the second book Beauty's Punishment Rice loses interest in her protagonist and concentrates on a M/m relationship. This is where I stopped reading.

A few years ago a disciplinarian strongly recommended John Glassco's Harriet Marwood, Governess which she described as being exquisitely well written. This is pure M/f so it might be what you are looking for. In some ways it is a homage to aforementioned Victorian erotica. Glassco also wrote The English Governess so I am confused as to how different the two novels are. I keep meaning to give at least one of them a try but have procrastinated.
Posted by: palmer

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/21/21 09:06 PM


Quote:
But I would love to read a book about based on life of an actual prodom. Preferably an autobiography. I would love to hear their stories about how they got started, how they discovered their kinks, all the memorable things that happen in their careers,the challenges they faced and basically anything.


There have been a few over the years, but one upcoming to look forward to is "Yes, Mistress," by Mistress Alicia, who people on this board may know and have sessioned with. It's got an October publication date. Not sure how much is biography vs. analysis of the scene, but she surely has the experience.

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Yes-Mistress/Alicia-Zadig/9781642937909
Posted by: NameNotFound

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/23/21 06:13 PM

Didn't know she wrote a book! Added to to-read list.
Posted by: Komodo

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/24/21 04:43 AM

In general I prefer reading books to watching movies but this is a luxury nowadays that I can afford only in vacations.

I also prefer non fiction. Fortunately for this genre there are good alternatives to books. Some blogs are so good that you would expect them to be published. The answer I get when I ask why not is for the protection of the clients.
Posted by: NameNotFound

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/24/21 03:41 PM

I don't really see how that could potentially harm clients as long as real/identifiable names are not used, and if only the dom and the sub and the ones who know about it. But what do I know.
I'm sure the professionals must be doing the right thing smile.

Also can you suggest some blogs to read?
Posted by: AspX

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/25/21 07:04 AM

There are lots of books that are supposedly like this but the problem is that too many are written by wannabes who dipped their toe into our world for a very short while & then found their true calling as media whores after they "retired" at age 23 from a house-style dungeon (where they inevitably started as a sub and were "trained" as a Domme).

The problem is that it is extremely difficult to be a great writer (even though everyone thinks they are). It is extremely difficult to be a great storyteller (which is both different than being a great writer & critical to the book you wish to read). It is also difficult to have an understanding of the totality of the scene, the self-awareness of how your approach leads to the niches where you fit within it (FemDom is always bigger than anything any single Domme can do or be), & an understanding of how your career integrates with all of the other aspects of your life.

So, to find all of these skills in a single person who also has the time, energy & motivation to write a book that will probably make them no money is a really tall task, imo. However, I can tell you that I know plenty of Women whose lives are more than interesting enough to fill volumes rather than just a single book, so you are not being too dramatic in your thoughts.
Posted by: Tristan

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/26/21 01:00 AM

Oh... I dunno... I got the impression from the Beauty books that pretty much every character in the book didn't really care about the gender of another other character. So everyone was pansexual? I guess? Not even sure what the label for it is. I suppose "DontCareSexual" gets the point across, but I don't think its in use.

Its similar to what I've read about people alive in the Roman Empire. No one seemed to care what gender anyone was - they were more interested in what they were doing to the other person, and what was happening to themselves.

Admittedly, the Beauty books were a little... unnerving? for me? at first? But somehow I put the D/s activities in a different category than sex or physical attraction and I ended up really enjoying the Beauty books. Especially the pony stuff in the second book.
Posted by: Mistress Kiva Krimson

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/26/21 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By AspX
There are lots of books that are supposedly like this but the problem is that too many are written by wannabes who dipped their toe into our world for a very short while & then found their true calling as media whores after they "retired" at age 23 from a house-style dungeon (where they inevitably started as a sub and were "trained" as a Domme).

The problem is that it is extremely difficult to be a great writer (even though everyone thinks they are). It is extremely difficult to be a great storyteller (which is both different than being a great writer & critical to the book you wish to read). It is also difficult to have an understanding of the totality of the scene, the self-awareness of how your approach leads to the niches where you fit within it (FemDom is always bigger than anything any single Domme can do or be), & an understanding of how your career integrates with all of the other aspects of your life.

So, to find all of these skills in a single person who also has the time, energy & motivation to write a book that will probably make them no money is a really tall task, imo. However, I can tell you that I know plenty of Women whose lives are more than interesting enough to fill volumes rather than just a single book, so you are not being too dramatic in your thoughts.


With over 24 years in the industry. I'm the woman to write the greatest tell all book about female domination ever written. There are a few problems though.

I can't find the time. I don't have the energy to write after a long day in the Dungeon. I hate tell all books.

I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
Posted by: AspX

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/26/21 09:24 AM

Originally Posted By Mistress Kiva Krimson


With over 24 years in the industry. I'm the woman to write the greatest tell all book about female domination ever written. There are a few problems though.

I can't find the time. I don't have the energy to write after a long day in the Dungeon. I hate tell all books.

I guess it just wasn't meant to be.


Mistress,

That is exactly what I mean. There are many, many amazing Women such as yourself who have incredible stories and insights. I have been fortunate to have spent lots of time with Dommes outside of the dungeon listening to them. They are almost always fascinating and range from exciting to funny to tragic & beyond.

But writing a book capturing all of it in a way that fairies a reader is an extremely time consuming task that takes a completely different skill set than just telling stories over a meal. Of course, if you find a good ghost writer it could take a lot of that burden away from you and your time. Just a thought.
Posted by: Tristan

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/27/21 01:30 AM

Ha!! Sometimes the stars just don't align.
Posted by: The Thomas

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/27/21 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By Tristan
Oh... I dunno... I got the impression from the Beauty books that pretty much every character in the book didn't really care about the gender of another other character. So everyone was pansexual? I guess? Not even sure what the label for it is. I suppose "DontCareSexual" gets the point across, but I don't think its in use.

Its similar to what I've read about people alive in the Roman Empire. No one seemed to care what gender anyone was - they were more interested in what they were doing to the other person, and what was happening to themselves.

Admittedly, the Beauty books were a little... unnerving? for me? at first? But somehow I put the D/s activities in a different category than sex or physical attraction and I ended up really enjoying the Beauty books. Especially the pony stuff in the second book.


I agree that Rice made all of the characters bisexual and then tried to flesh out all possible permutations. For anyone whose interest is strictly F/m these books will likely confuse and disappoint.

One of the women who recommended the books also thought the pony stuff was super hot. I merely found it OK.
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/30/21 01:28 PM

Thomas, I agree that Venus is Furs is still the pinnacle of the genre. The Sardax translation was a bit more fun to read though, in My opinion. The speech was less antiquated and clunky. Personally I have never read even a close second. If it's out there I hope someone here will direct us to it.
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/30/21 01:34 PM

Yes, yes and yes to all of this. I consider Myself a decent writer but honestly anything much longer than a blog post is out of My depth. A part of Me would love to share the stories that I tell over dinners and drinks with subs and other Dommes, but it's too great an effort as you have well pointed out.

I even found two accomplished (published) writers among My clients that have agreed to ghost write but still . . . maybe when I've retired and am missing the scene - but somehow I doubt it. By then I anticipate that I will have moved on to other things that give Me joy.
Posted by: The Thomas

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 07/30/21 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By Mistress Ayn
Thomas, I agree that Venus is Furs is still the pinnacle of the genre. The Sardax translation was a bit more fun to read though, in My opinion. The speech was less antiquated and clunky. Personally I have never read even a close second. If it's out there I hope someone here will direct us to it.


Once again you demonstrate excellent taste, Mistress.
Posted by: AspX

Re: D/s BDSM Story - 08/01/21 04:04 AM

Originally Posted By Mistress Ayn
By then I anticipate that I will have moved on to other things that give Me joy.


Wait... What? i don't even want to contemplate such an occurrence... Please Mistress Ayn, leave me in my perfect little demented world where i believe You will be around forever.

Asp

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