FemDom in a PC world

Will FemDom become homogenized by a politically correct society? I have watched the creep. What do you all think?

A few years ago a fetish club banned all military attire because someone was offended by Nazi Totenkoph emblem on a dancer's hat.

A month or so ago I got a notification from one of the clips stores that they were starting a new category called "Positive FemDom" that was free from humiliation and degradation.

After the Minneapolis protests/riots an internet Domme outed dozens of her peers for doing race play videos. She herself was eventually "exposed" for promoting interracial cuckolding.

And then this comment was left on one of My YouTube videos which explained the concept of Cuckolding.
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So much of what we do in FemDom is taboo and yes, often politically incorrect. I get that wearing a Swastika to an event is offensive to many and that race play videos are repulsive to those that are not into it, but where does it end? At this point I feel like I am having to second guess everything that I say on social media. I am starting to long for the pre-internet days. What is your take?

I don't think it will become homogenized at all in person to person interactions or in private spaces however I am actually on the side of the PC people for things in the "public" space.

I have long had a problem with the "Supremacy" fetishes being pushed across my feeds and the general acceptance of them in the public space of Social Media as being core to BDSM rather than edge play. I also have extremely serious issues with the use and depiction of Nazi Symbols (not the general esthetic, but specifically the symbols) in photography and other means that can be easily taken out of context and be used as propaganda by white supremacists to support their cause so I have specifically refused to promote or support Dommes that participate in that (including ones I generally respect).

As for those fetishes themselves, I am definitely not into them but I have no issue with these kinks for those who are. The role play interactions, the people who consent to them as part of their play and even basic relationships built on them are 100% valid to me. It is a choice between two consenting adults that I would never wish to get in the middle of. However, I do have problems when those kinks are pushed onto me by those who believe that everyone who is of a certain race, religion, gender, sexual orientation is beneath them.

Other than the depiction of hate symbols, like everything to do with the Nazis or KKK, I do believe that there should be nothing wrong with selling clips on these edge subjects. Just like I believe that you should be allowed to buy FTT or videos where blood is spilled. These are things that those that are into it should be able to search for and consume (no pun intended... but a pretty good one for you FTT people). However, bringing them into a public space (as social media is) goes over a line for me and is something that should be discouraged rather than celebrated.

As for "outing" and harassment... That is almost always a problem for me in any context. If someone is willing to offer this play and services in a private context... including videos/clips that are only available if you decide to buy them... then I don't believe that anyone else's values should be put onto them. What goes around comes around and you may have standing today because of some political movement, but in the end everyone in D/s and BDSM is politically incorrect and not accepted by the public at large (as we can see by how ALL our content is technically banned by Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, Tumblr, Pinterest, etc...).

I guess PC has come full circle when we now have to watch out for the well being of the poor abused consenting subs😂.

i have been playing online a lot and it feels that it is headed that way. I tried to send a message during an online session last week that included the words “forced ___”. Message was blocked for inappropriate content. Apparently both words are a no no now.

Hell my bank called me last month and asked me if everything was okay because i was sending so much to “certain websites”. (It wasnt even that much 100s not 1000s)

Oh yeah... cuckolding not a hate crime. Its 3 people consenting to a great time.

Life is stressful enough. Keeping play time non PC is important.

I think the essence of BDSM is "un-PC".

There used to be a smaller community, and the people were hardcore. As Femdom became popularized more types of people got into it and the restrictions you mentioned came into being.

My intuition is that smaller core of harder core players who want wild things are still there. The videos they want to watch and the activities they want to do will just be in small hidden corners.............just like it was before.

It is starting to resemble the Cultural Revolution. There seem to be people who want to be offended so they can call someone out. That has been prevalent for some time on Twitter.

Going off on a tangent I am in general not that aroused by most forms of humiliation. However cuckolding is something I would most definitely find hot but only in a lifestyle context. In a pro session it would only be a tawdry sex show combined with some corny drama.

Are you familiar with the story of von Sacher-Masoch and his wife?

Mistress, I think you know how strong my opinions are. I will do my best to share them lightly for the snowflakes who cannot handle another persons differing opinion. I say cancel the cancel culture. Any type of prejudice is unacceptable. Right wing and left wing radicals like white supremacists and ANTIFA need to be silenced once and for all. They are enemies of the country. Free speech and protesting yes. Riots and looting hell no! Go directly to jail. Bail reform in places like NYC is a total failure. All the media and EVERY politician are enemies of the people today. GTFU you were only promised life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and NO ONE owes you a damn thing. When I was younger I worked 3 jobs at a time and worked my way up. I have held 35 jobs in 18 different companies over the last 40 years and did it on my own. Get a damn education. Do it yourself. As for race, NO ONE can understand the discrimination people of color face but I can empathize growing up Jewish in the face of anti-semitic a holes. I fought for my freedom. This country and freedom of speech is in deep trouble. I am sorry but in today's USA the violence and rioting is mostly coming from the left. No one is shutting it down. Here is a tip of advice when you are pulled over by a peace officer. Smile, say yes sir, no sir, may I ask a question sir, etc. KEEP YOUR DAMN HANDS visible at all times and ask for permission to move or reach for your license and registration. NEVER make a sudden move and ask for permission before you do anything. I was suspended from FB because someone said I was racist. Anyone who knows me knows I have been to 56 different countries and worked with people from everywhere. FB suspended my account because I referred to Covid-19 as the Coronavirus that originated in Wuhan China. People cannot handle the truth. I was also attacked on FB because I said people lost the capacity to think and have a meaningful exchange of ideas. NO ONE TALKS ANYMORE. If you do not subscribe to my opinion you are the ENEMY! Again I say GTFU. FB wrote back to me to reactivate my account and I told them to GFY. I am done with Social Media. I understand this will seriously hurt people who are Pro Dommes. I say Bless all of you. I love all of you and am so grateful for helping me to accept my non-perfections and love of kink. Some of you who know the real me know I have worked hard to be a better person. We are all in trouble if we do not rise up and stop the media and the politicians and rioters and looters who are destroying our beloved country. Yes, protesters must have their freedom to demonstrate when there are real things wrong. There are great police out there but there are bad apples who must be identified and forced out of the profession. I wish we had term limits to get rid of these absolutely corrupt politicians. I fear for anyone who does not subscribe to the loudest most radical people today because you will be identified as the enemy very quickly. As for me, If this unrest continues into 2021 I am out of here and moving to southeast Asia. There will be no way back for this once great country. BTW this descent into madness began in 2004, got worse in 2006, escalated from 2009 to 2016, and exploded in the last 4 years. That is when sides were drawn and the country separated. We are in a state of civil war with the east and west coasts and the heartland.

ALL OF THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION. Please think and judge the facts for yourself while you still can.

Stay safe and healthy everyone. Bless you all.

As usual when it comes to kink, we disagree... I think Goddess Tangent is hot as hell whether she is humiliating someone or not...

She is now imagine Goddess Tangent wearing Orange. Hope you are safe and well my friend.

I'm no fan of our current PC culture. That being said, several dommes who wear nazi regalia are crossing the line. For millions of people the nazi totenkopf was the last thing they ever saw. We don't need dommes glorifying it.

ss-totenkopfverbände was the ss organization responsible for administering the nazi concentration camps and extermination camps for nazi germany.


https://www.xvideos.com/video10039474/cybill

I can't believe I am actually going to defend Cybil, especially considering the run-ins we had on both Twitter and Max Fisch on the issue many years ago and the fact that she is unapologetic for being a part of those pictures/videos (btw, the only reason the "run-ins" stopped is that I blocked her on everything that I can and refuse to engage with her, even the time when we were physically within 3 feet of each other). However, you throwing up a link to a video showing her in regalia deserves some balance since she is not on this board to say things herself.

Her position is that her play in her kink, and the use of those symbols in her play as the "ultimate evil", is "taking back" the power of those symbols in the same way that Blacks using the N-word to describe themselves. I think that is BS and I agree with you that we shouldn't allow that kind of representation in public forums, but if it is what she and her consenting partner(s) are into then that is up to them.

However, in Cybil's defense in relation to these pictures/videos... She has not published a picture or video that includes Nazi Symbology at least since Trump was elected in 2016 and has stated to people I know that it actually goes back "6 years" which would mean 2014. She has consistently and publicly attacked any members of racist groups who contact her. Included in her personal friends are people who are Jewish and Black. All of these things are overwhelmed by these long-ago images and gets her wrongly branded.

To be clear, the pictures and videos that you still see involving her in Nazi regalia are real and were taken of her long ago, but at this point are actually "stolen" and posted by others in violation of copyright and that is especially true in relation to a video on "xvideos". IMO, that as much as anything is something that we shouldn't promote.

Cybill is very smart and articulated, but that picture was since she was 24. I think that the issue is less the content which is always something negotiable between players, but the PR. IMHO publishing the picture was a mistake and all the subsequent storm is a consequence of that.

100% agree. I only participate in social media for promotional purposes but wouldn't have an issue if I woke up tomorrow and everyone of those sites were gone - Twitter, FB, IG - all of them. I had to get off FB entirely for about a year because I would have ended up hating all of my real life friends - and I told them this. Social media seems to bring out the worst in some people.


Agree with this as well. I never understood why anyone would want to see two relative strangers have sex and pretend it mattered. However, I do enjoy cuckold talk in session and have a few guys that enjoy me telling how I am going to set their wife up with one of my bulls.

I have sadly never read Venus in Furs - and with some time on my hands maybe now is the time to do so. Did she cuckold him?

100% agree with that sentiment... but it was a lot more than the one picture with the armband. She had a ton wearing a hat with the SS Eagle on it and was very open in stating that she offered that kind of role play for many years.

Leopold's wife had read "Venus in Furs" and knew about much of his kink before she married him. Some of it was agreeable to her. What she didn't anticipate is his cuckolding fantasy. He did a lot to encourage her to do it including have her meet attractive men. She resisted for a while but finally gave in. She found the experience deeply humiliating and she got a divorce.

This almost feels more like it belongs in politics.

This concept of "politically correct" is shorthand for "I don't like being asked to treat others with dignity and so I'm going to invent a term to make it sound controversial."

I mean, if someone wants to be addressed a certain way or not addressed a certain way or otherwise ask for respect, why in the world would I be opposed to or bothered by someone wanting to feel good?

So, I don't think "PC" is the real issue here. I think the issue is that we have to educate people to understand that the nature of our work is that of FANTASY.

I would suggest we think of this topic as "FemDom in a world in which people do not understand the difference between fantasy and reality and how social issues affect our work".

Sounds like a Master's thesis, I know!

You know, instead of elaborating further, I think I'll just write something for my blog about this...

Stop. Go directly to jail. Do not collect $200. Antifa is not in any way on par with White Supremacy, they are ANTI-FAscists. They an against fascism. You know, the kind of people who murdered all the Jews and homos and guys who likes to wear panties. For the love of Goddess, please stop trying to turn them into something they're not.

I can't even with the rest of this. The level of unawareness is too much. Also, it belongs in politics.

And please consider that after saying incendiary things no one wants the "I love you all" platitudes.

"Also, it belongs in politics."

Yes, it does. I would enjoy discussing this but not in the lobby.

It depends. There are subjects that can be dealt with in multiple places like this. Obviously the content of the discussion would differ. I think that what most of us commenting on this forum had in mind is the recent Twitter storm related to Cybill. If you open it in Politics, and why not, the discussions would be more generic and the usual divisions between Trump and anti-Trump followers would prevail.

That statement is completely false! CT has been wearing nazi parafinallia for years! Note the date of this tweet.

https://twitter.com/Cybill_Troy/status/1273107304259506176?s=20

In 2018 she minimizes her guilt in this tweet. https://twitter.com/Cybill_Troy/status/959122482891558912?s=20

To act as though CT simply made a mistake in judgment when she was young is ridiculous! She is proud of her actions and actively advertises her Nazi photos and clips to this very day.

The youthful twenty two year old Irma Ida Ilse Grese would have made a popular clip star had she been born in 1998!

Irma Ida Ilse Grese was an SS guard serving at the concentration camps of Auschwitz and Ravensbrück. She also served as a warden on the women’s section of Bergen-Belsen.

After the liberation of the camps, Grese was convicted of crimes involving murder and ill-treatment of prisoners and was consequently sentenced to death at the age of 22 during the Belsen trial. She was famous for being the youngest woman to die under British Law in the 20th Century.

Grese is particularly notorious for her sexual violence against inmates and her frequent sexual relationships with other SS guards – she was regarded as a nymphomaniac.

One of her lovers was none only than Josef Mengele, Angel of Death. She was part of the gas chamber selection and often chose women based on whether she believed them to be more beautiful than she was. Grese had a thing for personal-grooming, expensive custom clothing and the overuse of perfume – which was believed to be a deliberate act of sadism against them female inmates who obviously had nothing.

It's sad to see people defending the wearing of the same Nazi regalia Irma Grese wore.

You have a valid point. I just error on the side of caution when it comes to conversations that well may splinter into political discussion.

As long as there are two consenting, non-judgmental, logical, and like minded people who enjoy having fun behind closed doors, the rest is irrelevant.

It's unfortunate that segments of society can be judgemental without having a clue on what two (or more) people consented to.

PC and human sensitivity is at an all time high. And in my opinion, it results in a bland society with lack of uniqueness, human character, and individualism.

Please no "reading between the lines" and interpreting my post. Please take it at face value. No bias or hidden agenda.

The street I live on is two way, and the corner of Respect Avenue and Non-Judgment Way.

Celeste

And I am afraid you have been proven right once more.

Sometimes I go back and re-read things and realize I articulated something badly because I was thinking from a specific perspective (in this case, purely my own personal one) that isn't evident in what I wrote. This time I want to make sure I correct it b/c this was especially bad.

By "run-ins”, I meant discussions about this specific issue that were always initiated by me in response to something she posted. The "stopping" because of my blocking was really me stopping myself from getting upset over it & was completely unilateral. I highly doubt Cybil even knew that it happened or really even knows my screen name.

When I re-read that paragraph it made it seem like the two of us were fully engaged and going at it. To be fair, it was not that... It was a big deal to me and probably of no consequence (or memory) to her.

Mistress Tissa, you know how much I respect you. I 100% disagree with you about ANTIFA. They are a menace to society and are a Domestic terrorist organization, nothing more. I support protesters completely who do it peacefully and without arson, vandalism, robbing and looting and attacking police. I do not support people (ANTIFA) throwing bottles and bricks and rocks and molotov cocktails at police cars. I do agree with you 100% that I got caught up in the moment and the post should have been placed in politics. For that I am sorry.

Teddy, you're wrong.

Take care.