You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone

Posted by: RudolfWhitmer

You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/04/20 10:30 AM

Dommes have been forced into retirement because of this planned demic.

In San Francisco, there were about 10 ads up on Eros, normally there are 35 ish.

In New York, it's about 40 something. Normally 100 plus. And of those 40... I'd only want to see about 10 of the dommes and even then, I'd want to narrow that down to maybe 3.

With supply lower, you can raise those rates to $500 an hour. People who actually have money and aren't living paycheck to paycheck are the only people who will session. And since there has been such a pent up frustration and you can convince these men that they need to take care of you and it's their duty to pay you... they will.

You need to capitalize on this. Just like people did early on with hand sanitizer and masks. At peak, P95 masks that only cost $30 were selling for $250 to $300 on Ebay. Now they sell for $75 as demand has gone down.
Posted by: Swordfish

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/05/20 12:08 AM

Could it be that like many others in the service industry, dommes have dropped their ads since they are not taking sessions anyway?
Posted by: RudolfWhitmer

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/05/20 06:40 AM

They should be expanding and conquering during this contraction period. Now is the time to double down on advertising and get your name out there.
Posted by: Cheyenne

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/05/20 08:33 AM

It wouldn't be a bad idea for new Dom's to advertise while the rates are low and the ads are few...even if it was just to say, "Coming soon." But, my guess is that Doms without a client base may not have the money to do so. My friends, with established clients, seem to be doing fine. They have savings and other skills. They are still doing sessions but on a small and selective scale. Some clients have sent session money, knowing it may be months before they can get together. Some clients have insisted the Dom keeps their deposit for a session canceled. There is a lot of good faith in the community. Most Doms wouldn't raise their rates if it meant taking advantage of a bad situation.
Posted by: MsRoseWoods

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/05/20 12:22 PM

Hey mister big spender. I'll be glad to take your $500. I will need a 100% deposit. grin
Posted by: junglebeast

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/05/20 05:39 PM

Originally Posted By RudolfWhitmer
Dommes have been forced into retirement because of this planned demic.

In San Francisco, there were about 10 ads up on Eros, normally there are 35 ish.

In New York, it's about 40 something. Normally 100 plus. And of those 40... I'd only want to see about 10 of the dommes and even then, I'd want to narrow that down to maybe 3.

With supply lower, you can raise those rates to $500 an hour. People who actually have money and aren't living paycheck to paycheck are the only people who will session. And since there has been such a pent up frustration and you can convince these men that they need to take care of you and it's their duty to pay you... they will.

You need to capitalize on this. Just like people did early on with hand sanitizer and masks. At peak, P95 masks that only cost $30 were selling for $250 to $300 on Ebay. Now they sell for $75 as demand has gone down.


Thanks for helping all of my fellow subs out, Rudolf! Really appreciate it during a pandemic/depression. But seriously folks... Do you think certain cities and states would begin arresting Dominas and others in “related fields” for price gouging if they followed this advice during this troubled time?

(Tongue-in-cheek here ladies & germs... I mean gentlemen. LOL!)
Posted by: RudolfWhitmer

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/05/20 06:02 PM

The irony here is that you don't even have the freedom to be a slave because everyone is on house-arrest.
Posted by: future pet

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/05/20 06:26 PM

You might want to look up house arrest.
Posted by: DommeLynx

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/05/20 09:12 PM

I wish people would stop using Eros in general. They're a terrible site that rips sexworkers out of money all the time.
Posted by: future pet

Eros - 05/06/20 07:00 AM

I've heard nothing good about them. From a sub's POV, it's a consolidator of information; we have otherwise no loyalty to it. And we don't want to prop up an institution that treats Dommes and others poorly.

What would you recommend instead? Twitter is somewhat searchable, but it's a better idea for someone who is established. In fetlife keywords like Goddess, Domme or Mistress can be searched along with, say, a city. But it's another crapshoot. Now's as good a time as any to put eros out of its misery.
Posted by: MsRoseWoods

Re: Eros - 05/06/20 07:53 AM

I'm no fan of Eros, but these days Dommes don't have much choice. I don't tour and I'm very low volume. If I did tour, I'd have to deal with them.
Posted by: RudolfWhitmer

Re: Eros - 05/06/20 09:10 AM

If I have found EROS to be simple to use and have contacted Dommes because of their ads on EROS and then sessioned with them.... is the site really that bad? Or did it facilitate something that benefited all three of us?
Posted by: DommeLynx

Re: Eros - 05/06/20 02:15 PM

Originally Posted By future pet


What would you recommend instead?


Tryst (dot) link has been very good. Fetlife has a search feature too now.

Originally Posted By RudolfWhitmer
If I have found EROS to be simple to use and have contacted Dommes because of their ads on EROS and then sessioned with them.... is the site really that bad? Or did it facilitate something that benefited all three of us?


Simple for the client, yes, but not for the other side. Eros is poorly run. Sw'ers get banned all the time, for little to no reason, and have their money stolen. They constantly deny ads and keep the money for them. They also randomly up charges with no notice. They've had major leaks. They work with the FBI and there's been a few reports of sw'ers being banned from entering the US after being on Eros. If you really start looking into them, you'll see nothing but complaints.

Personally they still owe me $37 they refuse to give me lol
Posted by: RudolfWhitmer

Re: Eros - 05/06/20 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By DommeLynx
Originally Posted By future pet


What would you recommend instead?


Tryst (dot) link has been very good. Fetlife has a search feature too now.

Originally Posted By RudolfWhitmer
If I have found EROS to be simple to use and have contacted Dommes because of their ads on EROS and then sessioned with them.... is the site really that bad? Or did it facilitate something that benefited all three of us?


Simple for the client, yes, but not for the other side. Eros is poorly run. Sw'ers get banned all the time, for little to no reason, and have their money stolen. They constantly deny ads and keep the money for them. They also randomly up charges with no notice. They've had major leaks. They work with the FBI and there's been a few reports of sw'ers being banned from entering the US after being on Eros. If you really start looking into them, you'll see nothing but complaints.

Personally they still owe me $37 they refuse to give me lol


That's all you needed to say. Working with the FBI. They have no business working with the FBI. Hopefully all dommes stand together in unity and stop advertising on that site. I think we have a good start with a lot of ads going down since this virus started.
Posted by: Lady Bellatrix

Re: Eros - 05/06/20 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By DommeLynx
Originally Posted By future pet


What would you recommend instead?


Tryst (dot) link has been very good. Fetlife has a search feature too now.

Originally Posted By RudolfWhitmer
If I have found EROS to be simple to use and have contacted Dommes because of their ads on EROS and then sessioned with them.... is the site really that bad? Or did it facilitate something that benefited all three of us?


Simple for the client, yes, but not for the other side. Eros is poorly run. Sw'ers get banned all the time, for little to no reason, and have their money stolen. They constantly deny ads and keep the money for them. They also randomly up charges with no notice. They've had major leaks. They work with the FBI and there's been a few reports of sw'ers being banned from entering the US after being on Eros. If you really start looking into them, you'll see nothing but complaints.

Personally they still owe me $37 they refuse to give me lol


Agreed. Eros died with SESTA/FOSTA.

Back in the day, as a predominantly UK based Domme, it was never a good place to advertise. Dudes would phone late at night with "yeah, you workin' now?". This site never took off as a place for Dommes to advertise in London.

But as someone who toured internationally it was thee place to be (US and Canada). With ads just on Eros and Backpage, I could make bank without blinking an eyelash.

But in summer of 2018, I axed my advertising with them.

As I don't publish my mobile number anywhere on the internet and relied on the link to my website, mid tour they changed their policies. They took away the outbound link function without notice and when I challenged this, they simply cut and pasted some legal jargon saying it was their perogative to change policy at any given time without notice.

Good bye Eros. May you RIP.

I am surprised any Pro-Dommes still pay to advertise there?!

Posted by: MayaMidnight

Re: Eros - 05/07/20 02:11 AM

It used to be pretty great. Now they have a ban on linking websites and are incredibly fussy about photos/text while refusing to provide any guidelines. Ads often take ages to approve, which creates issues for touring Mistresses. They got raided by the feds a while back and there are some serious privacy concerns. Also, I don't appreciate an ad site that shuts down with no notice occasionally and can't be bothered to alert anyone to what's going on when they know full well that many of their advertisers depend on them and are going to worry they got seized.

I appreciate that it must be difficult to run an ad site in a post-SESTA/FOSTA world but Tryst and Dickie Classifieds seem to be doing a much better job.
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: Eros - 05/10/20 03:15 PM

Hi Domme Lynx. I have heard a few others say they like Tryst. I've had an ad up for about 3 months and have gotten zero response. Maybe it's a geographical thing.

In Atlanta Eros is king. I do a pretty good job of tracking where clients come from and for me it's about 50% Eros and 50% organic internet searches. Everyone here advertises on Eros and if you don't you are going to miss out on a ton of business.

They are a royal pain in the ass and have no respect for the people that pay them, I agree. I would love to tell them to shove it, but they are the only game in town currently.

I like Dickie Virgin - plus they are great people but I seldom get a client from there. I wish more people used them.
Posted by: DommeLynx

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/10/20 05:59 PM

I appreciate all the ladies chiming in. I'll check out Dickie Virgin.

I havn't used Eros in a very long time. It's disheartening to hear they're still king. Hopefully times will change and new competition will show up that treats us better.
Posted by: junglebeast

Re: Eros - 05/10/20 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By Mistress Ayn
Hi Domme Lynx. I have heard a few others say they like Tryst. I've had an ad up for about 3 months and have gotten zero response. Maybe it's a geographical thing.

In Atlanta Eros is king. I do a pretty good job of tracking where clients come from and for me it's about 50% Eros and 50% organic internet searches. Everyone here advertises on Eros and if you don't you are going to miss out on a ton of business.

They are a royal pain in the ass and have no respect for the people that pay them, I agree. I would love to tell them to shove it, but they are the only game in town currently.

I like Dickie Virgin - plus they are great people but I seldom get a client from there. I wish more people used them.


Mistress Ayn, out of curiosity I checked Tryst and it is pretty slick, good pics and descriptions, but is not intuitive at least for me. It took a bit to find you on the site. Users automatically go to escorts.

Dickievirgin, which I've known for years, was a heck of a lot easier to navigate. I found you and Mistress Samantha within a minutes. Just my two cents.
Posted by: RudolfWhitmer

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/10/20 06:44 PM

Originally Posted By DommeLynx
I appreciate all the ladies chiming in. I'll check out Dickie Virgin.

I havn't used Eros in a very long time. It's disheartening to hear they're still king. Hopefully times will change and new competition will show up that treats us better.


As clients, we're always going to use the easiest system. Eros is tough to beat when it comes to that and is usually a first place I start. I ocassionally will check Tryst.link to make sure I haven't missed anyone, but in general I find them to have more lesser known/escorts with whip type dommes, but those are generally pretty easy to spot, especially if they don't have their own independent website.

Anyone started sessions again?
Posted by: Grune

Re: Eros - 05/10/20 07:37 PM

Originally Posted By Mistress Ayn
They are a royal pain in the ass and have no respect for the people that pay them, I agree. I would love to tell them to shove it, but they are the only game in town currently.


You sound like me on one of my weekly zocdoc rants. The model is to treat clients well to make yourself invaluable (not nice or fair) to the adverisers who pay you.

I think the one thing dommes have going for them is that clients would get off on patronizing a domme sponsored advertising site if all things were equal.
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/10/20 11:48 PM

You are correct that Eros is easy to use on the client side. They are also indexed well. I think a lot of people start with a general search on the engines and Eros usually pops up within the top 5 results depending on how they search. Tryst doesn't rank at all in any of the searches I have done recently, so I think most people don't even know they exist.

Backpage was consistently in the top 3 of search results back in the day - and that contributed to their success. They blew Eros out of the water back then. But they had their issues too - mainly fake profiles and scams. We don't like that Eros wants our ID but it did pretty much do away with those types of scams on their platform.

To answer your question about sessions, yes, I have started taking sessions again. The problem is that most offices aren't open (even though the state has opened) so people are still stuck at home with no excuse to get out and business travel is nil. It's going to be a while before things get back to normal.
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: You could chanrge $500 per session.... 1/2 of Eros ads gone - 05/12/20 01:20 AM

Originally Posted By DommeLynx
I wish people would stop using Eros in general. They're a terrible site that rips sexworkers out of money all the time.


Agreed. They went from spectacular to trash.
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: Eros - 05/12/20 01:27 AM

Originally Posted By future pet
From a sub's POV, it's a consolidator of information; we have otherwise no loyalty to it. And we don't want to prop up an institution that treats Dommes and others poorly.


There are a lot of places that consolidate information. Eros is just the one that people have used a lot. If people redirected their attention (and dollars) elsewhere we'd have another Eros.

Quote:
What would you recommend instead?


Web searches. I mean, shouldn't professionals have a website anyway? Look for them in the best directory of all: search engines.

I made a guide in my blog to help people find a Domme: https://bdsmlog.mistresstissa.com/finding-a-professional-domme/
Posted by: Mistress Tissa

Re: Eros - 05/12/20 01:41 AM

Originally Posted By DommeLynx
Simple for the client, yes, but not for the other side. Eros is poorly run. Sw'ers get banned all the time, for little to no reason, and have their money stolen. They constantly deny ads and keep the money for them. They also randomly up charges with no notice. They've had major leaks. They work with the FBI and there's been a few reports of sw'ers being banned from entering the US after being on Eros. If you really start looking into them, you'll see nothing but complaints.


After they were raided by the feds in Nov 2017 they have gotten progressively difficult and bizarre.

I stopped using them two years ago. Not really interested in paying to be in a directory that is likely run by the very people who would easily stab you in the back.

They apparently have added a text box for people to put what services they offer. That's right: tame photos and web links aren't okay but somehow including a list of your services is.

Also, note that TER and Backpage came back around the same time.

Smells like a trap to me.

I have also heard that LE might be creating fake profiles and trying to entrap clients. I read one account of someone who insisted that happened, but haven't heard much else since. Whether it's true or not, it enforces how important it is to not only vet the client but the provider as well.