How OnlyFans steals from sex workers and fans

How OnlyFans steals from sex workers and fans


https://www.shae-ashbury.com/shae-ashburys-blog/2019/8/13/how-onlyfans-steals-from-sex-workers

It is lousy that they refunded the fans instead of sending her a check. But, I think she is wrong that they "despise" escorts. They do not want to get into trouble for promotion of illegal services. Websites that offer reviews and, contact information of escorts have gotten into serious trouble over this. Frankly, I think full service escorting should be legal. But, it is not. If the feds got involved, the lady in question would likely not be in any trouble. The owners of the web site would be on the hook for the very serious charge of promotion. I wish the lady who wrote this article the best. She comes across as a spunky, good natured person.

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I wouldn't waste one second with OnlyFans, or any of it's clones.

I hate to inform the author of this tale of woe, but prostitution is illegal! It's why I am offended when Dommes call Lamp post lizards, Sisters and co-sex workers. Professional Domination is not illegal! This makes a major difference to sites like OnlyFans.

The fact that it is illegal is being used to steal money from providers. These are where the "pimps" have gone to become legit.
And of course providers continue to be treated as sub-human, and are denied any recourse, legal or otherwise.

Canada had it right for a while (thanks to tireless and largely thankless work by a Dominatrix), but then they enacted new laws, which had enough of the female lobby on board to make it stick.

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Actually, depending on the state you live in, typical aspects of prodom are illegal. They shouldn't be. But, they are. While doms are certainly not escorts, none of us should think we are any better or, safer with law enforcement. What le doesn't care about in Columbus, Ohio could get someone arrested in Cincinnati, Ohio. So much of it is not what is written in the state but, how the local town feels about adult industry. It is a grey area we all have to be respectful of. I do agree that it is not good for doms to advertise with escorts. It gives local le and, customers the wrong impression. I can't remember the name of the escort review site but, one of my customers posted about me on it years ago. It was a favorable review but, my phone rang off the hooks for weeks with people asking for services that I had never been asked for or, even thought about providing. Finally, one of my clients called and, told me about the review. It took a male member of the site to get my review done. They had no respect for a woman requesting not to be associated with their site. So, yes, professionally, it is better for a dom to stay away from association with escort avenues.

Literally digital pimps, it's where Misogyny lives and flourishes

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Was the review site The Erotic Review? I’ve read reviews on there and there is definitely something about their tone that I didn’t care for. Just obnoxious but then I’m a sub so I’m not thinking on the same level as most of their reviewers. Hobbyists I think they are called.

Cheyenne, My point is simply this. When two or more prostitutes discuss committing an act of prostitution, it is a criminal conspiracy.

Not so with Dommes.

You are correct, an individual Dominatrix may commit a crime while she is conducting a session, exempli gratia, She murders Her sub. The agreed upon session was not illegal, the murder was.

From a LE perspective there is a huge difference!

Prostitution law is BAD law. (All) Law may have the implied threat of state violence up and and including lethal means to enforce it, but that does not make it good.

I would go further to say that that law is a Misanthropic, inherently anti-human. It's a product of a religions myopia from a bygone era that should have long ago been purged from the statutes, especially in the light of current realities.

It continues to be open to ambiguities and wide swaths of differing interpretations, county to county and state to state, and is overwhelmingly enforced against those least able to defend themselves, legally or otherwise.

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I meant to get my review gone...not, done. lol. But, yes, many of the male website owners are shameless and, exploitative. Not all...but many.

Yes, that was it. TER. It is escort based and, very female derogatory. At least it was when someone posted a review of me...going back over 10 years ago.

It would be surprising if le went after doms or, escorts for criminal conspiracy. I wasn't referencing things like murder but, strap on and, even cbt could get a dom in trouble, depending on the area they are in. In fact, both have numerous times.

Great post, Cheyanne.

You are correct that the owners of the site could possibly be charged with promotion. However, the much more serious legal jeopardy for the site owners would arise from the actual transfer of funds across state lines. They could likely be charged at the federal level with both bank wire fraud and money laundering. Those are extremely serious charges carrying lenghty prison time upon conviction and are likely the reason the money was returned to the subscribers.

Upon reading and then skimming through what this Lady wrote, then reading some of the responses here, it doesn't seem like she's taking into account the potential legal trouble O.F. can get in. Maybe they can, maybe they can't. I have joined a few sites on there and even managed one a bit for someone and the site definitely is lame as far as the numerous glitches it has.
Also, why would one wait two months to cash out? Is that standard? Perhaps she had a reserve of two months work but then she can find somewhere else to sell it even though I did read the amount of sites that are not doing business with SWs. Perhaps she violated something she's not aware of, those legal disclaimers can be long as fuck and cryptic if you're not a lawyer and maybe even if you are.

I don't know if Cheyenne's experience was with TER but I hated them. During the time when MF would not take new members and before the Buzz there was a 2 year window or so where the only place to post a review was The Erotic Review. The female half of a couple wrote a review for me there and they rejected it saying they "weren't set up to take reviews by women". WTF? She had to re-write it and send it in as her husband.

Some times these type of web sites pay that way for, valid reasons. I do agree they should have given her the money. But, I understand that they terminated her account. Many of the sites will not let ClubDom show corporal scenes, even when they are pretty light. The same sites will allow an 18 year old girl, wearing, pony tails and, made to look like she is 13, having rough sex/verbally abusive sex with 8 men at the same time. Although some of their rules do not make sense, they are based on laws or, visa regulations that don't make sense. The websites have to protect themselves.

That’s ridiculous and disgusting. And speaking of which I think I saw something on Twitter that their reviews are back up in the USA.

They do not appear to be back. https://www.theeroticreview.com/na.asp

I'm wondering why OF didn't lay out the restrictions to Shae Asbbury at the outset. Maybe it was in the fine print of their contract, the same kind of verbiage that you get from your bank when they issue you a credit card. And who goes to the trouble to read all the fine print? Of course, OF knows that, and then they pounce when the SW violates their terms laid out in paragraph 44, line 22.

It just might be my bad luck, but it seems like most of these sites are ripoffs! I've found in my 23 years as a Domme, that most are lots of work with very little profit.

I can see both sides here.

Sex workers are under attack, and I can see how people would want to do business with companies they felt had their backs. But on the other hand, the people who run Only Fans don't want to expose themselves to danger because one of their customers is an escort.

They should have said up front that if she's an escort, Only Fans isn't a good fit for her. Instead, it seems like they said if you're cool and discrete, it will probably be OK. I don't think that was fair.

I remember another complaint about them, from a woman I'm not sure would want to have her name used here, who tried to quit. They refused to take her content down. I think she got it resolved in the end, but that it was a big hassle for her.