Time to Retire?

Call me judgmental. But when I see these really old Dommes trying to compete with Mistresses who are in their prime, I cringe!

I wonder if enough slaves blowing smoke up your ass, makes you unaware that it's time to exit stage right. There is nothing worse than a sixty something Domme twerking on twitter!

I'm ok with Mommy Dommes, so so, about Granny Domes, but great Granny Dommes, Hells No!

I don't give a flip about "Mistress I'm so great's reputation" or who she was in the 80s, or early 90s. Wake up it's 2019!

When do you believe it's time for a Dominatrix to ride off into the proverbial setting sun?

I think the core point is that if a prodomme is still getting clients then she is still wanted.

It may not be everyone's thing, but that is true of every femdom activity and type of prodomme

This is a good question. I think it is different for everyone. I've known ladies who did sessions in their mid 60's, kept themselves in fantastic shape and, did well. I'm thinking of Goddess Elizabeth of South Florida. Her client base was loyal and, probably around her age, if not older. I can't imagine her twerking. She was a very elegant lady who loved the scene. The scene never stopped loving her.

A colleague of mine, who has done very well for herself, is in her mid 50's. I'm surprised to see she is still touring. She's always busy, never slows down and, has certainly done well enough to retire by now. She just loves the scene and, has no shortage of clients. She's also a fitness and, health buff. So, that helps. Twerking? No. Classical, old school domination with enough wardrobe and, toys to blow anyone's mind.

As for me, I retired from sessions in my mid 40's and, focused on the video business. I still had a thriving session business but, it had lost it's excitement for me and, it didn't seem fair to my clients to go through the motions and, fake it. I rocked it in videos, even in my 40's. My C4S store sat in the number one spot for years, until I decided to pull away from that a little too. The video business was a blast for a long time but, I eventually felt like spending more time with my family and, traveling with my husband. I will say, if my life had been different and, I wasn't able to afford to retire, I could not see myself doing sessions so elegantly as the ladies I mentioned. As corporal and, hardcore as my videos were, my session style was more playful. Cheerleading outfits, leather bikinis, low cut cat suits, mini latex dresses, ect. So, that would probably have put me in the category of the twerking senior citizen dom if I had remained doing sessions. That would have been a big no thank you for me. Couldn't have done it and, maintained my self esteem.

I'm in my mid 50's now and, some of my beloved clients and, fans still try to get me to do sessions, to the point of bribery. One client in particular really misses the connection we had. I think about it some times. I miss playing with him too. He is older than I am and, probably wouldn't feel comfortable with a dom who is much younger. I don't worry about my catsuit fitting but, the head space. My mind is on grandkids and, gardening. There is a time to know when to retire your jersey, to put it in football terms. That time is different for everyone. But, I do agree about the twerking. Grow old elegantly. Not desperately. Above all else, be happy that you are growing old. It is better than the alternative.

Whenever they lose the desire to do it or can no longer handle the physical aspects of the job. For those Dommes I have a true connection with, I am a client for life and never want them to retire. "Age" is about looks and looks don't mean squat when you are hooded with a giant strapon being pounded into you.

I love older Domminas. The ones I know and have sessioned with have all been in great shape and have been at the top of their game. They've seen it all and usually are able to cut through the BS and client/mistress misunderstandings and to deliver a truly great session.

Mistress Cheyenne provides a classy response to Ms. Rose Woods' pointed, and very legitimate, question. As someone who has always been drawn to mature Mistresses (over 35) for most of my years playing, I have a few comments or stories about this.

The first is about Mistress Belle de Jour, my first, who I saw when I was in college and she was in her late 40s. In the mid-1990s she still owned/managed a place in Chelsea. I called and recognized her voice, she recognized mine, and she immediately said, "You're still doing this shit?" We both laughed. In the '80s during my trips in and out of the scene I always went to her and she would recommend Mistresses that would match my taste, most notably her niece Gloria and Ava Taurel. On that phone call I immediately said, "I want to session with you." Belle said she didn't anymore but had someone for me. I ran over there.

At that point she had to be 70 but still looked great that day, really hot. It wasn't an age thing, I just really wanted to serve Belle one more time and pushed the point. Finally Belle smiled and said, "Get the hell inside." She remembered what I liked, what I didn't, and we had a great time.

There are some subs that like older women or really older women. To each his own. But I have seen some ads for Dominas (and escorts) who are older than me... and I'm now in my mid-60s. Not my thing.

I still remember in the '90s there was a "Mistress" who advertised in New York Magazine personals section as a "spankologist." Those were three or four line print ads, no pics, but a phone number. I called one Saturday and she said she had plenty of experience here, and in Hollywood, and was a former starlet years ago who knew plenty of 'stars,' etc., etc. She sounded mature... very mature... 70+ mature... and somewhat delusional. I didn't make an appointment. A year or two later I saw an ad in one of the S&M magazines the same "spankologist" description as the New York Magazine ad with a black & white from the '50s I guess of a starlet in a bikini. Pretty sad. But she was discussed several times over the years at Max Fisch. Some guys went to her. Who knows?

Finally, in 2005 I met a dominant fitness/bodybuilder from Vegas. Tall, ash blonde, perfect figure, fit but not overly muscular and legs to die for. (She was a former showgirl.) She was my age, back then in her early 50s. Very dominant and intimidating. We hit it off. By 2010 she decided to open a fitness business. We kept in touch for a couple of years afterwards, had a dinner or two in Vegas, she was in great shape but for her, it was time. I still miss her.

What's been going through my mind lately, at my advanced age is, when is the time for a sub to retire? I'll start topic shortly.

What's been going through my mind lately, at my advanced age is, when is the time for a sub to retire? I'll start topic shortly.

This will be a great topic that, I don't believe, in all of these years, has been discussed. I'm looking forward to it.

Bell de Jour sounds so awesome. Of course, anyone who has been around for a while remembers her, from DDI and, her reputation. I never had the opportunity to meet her. I had no idea that Ava Taurel was her daughter. Which would be another interesting thread. How do people feel about the mother/daughter/niece thing. I won't comment but, wait for the appropriate time for a new thread.

To me as long as they can still get clients and still enjoy doing it why not keep going. Some like sessions with an older Domme. When I was like 25 I session with a mid 50’s BBW and it was great. We look like like an unlikely pair but had a lot of the same interests so it worked out great.

Mistress, if I wrote this the wrong way MY MISTAKE! Ava Taurel was NOT Belle's daughter. Here is a link discussing a documentary about Ava, "Didn't Do It For Love." https://www.amazon.com/Didnt-Do-Love-Eva-Norvind/dp/B01MF64OK0

Mistress Gloria was her niece, at least I believed Belle about that. A busty blonde a couple of years older than me back then (maybe 39? 40?) with hypnotic eyes, seductive behavior and a classic hourglass figure. Looking back I took big chances and drove her around Queens a few times for her upscale messenger job.

Call me an old fart, but I root for them, like I root for Federer in tennis. Now again, real old is in the eye of the beholder. Can you trust anybody over 30😉?

Most of my early sessions (over 25 years ago) were with "mature" Dommes and I loved them all. A lady in her early 60's was my first professional Mistress and she led me into a wide variety of wild experiences. For that I am forever grateful. When she found it a "chore" to keep doing sessions, she retired.

And, in reply to Komodo's last question, I have to ask these days if you can trust anyone under 30!?!

A dominatrix should retire when she wants to. That's it.

Some people's prime is later in life. I really wish we didn't devalue women because of their age.

I'm looking forward to beating men with my cane, trampling them in my walker, and telling them to bend down to kiss my slippers lol

I know more than a few dommes in their sixties who are amazing and elegant.

To be fair, the dommes in their 20's twerking on Twitter look just as stupid.

Thanks for the link. :-)

Ha! Very true!

Unfortunately our society devalues anyone over 50.

I agree. There are classy, beautiful, women over sixty.

A very wise mature Domme told me, "You can get old, but you can't get fat and old."

Twerking and begging for money is a stripper thing. No Dominatrix from 18 to 80, should be on twitter doing it.

100% agreed. No need for dommes to be so base.

I am a little late to the party on this topic but I am an over 40 Domme and thoughts of how long I will be able to continue do occur to me from time to time. No disrespect to you Ms. RoseWood but I think domination is very much an older woman's arena and I sometimes wonder what the 20 somethings are thinking when they twerk and do very undignified things. The most ridiculous thing I have seen is an under 30 "Domme" offering life coach services. Really?

Real domination is as much mental as it is physical and life experience helps provide a mental sophistication and confidence that I didn't have as a younger woman. Attraction is important but there are so many more layers to domination.

That being said, I think a ProDomme should retire when she is no longer relevant. I just hope I have the good sense to know when that is ;-)

I completely agree that seeing an older Domme trying to emulate the younger ones is a bit pathetic. There are so many ways an older Domme can stay relevant. Twerking is not one of them.

I too, used to wonder if I would have an expiration date in my industry, but I no longer worry about that being the case. I think there will always be a place for young dommes in the world that puts youthfulness on a pedestal. You don't really have to do much, just, you know, be 25. (I sometimes wonder if the whole bratty thing is a fetish or something guys put up with to be around young women.) Most the time these types of dommes do not age well.

Intelligence, compassion, and confidence really make a domme and I find in my 40's I am better at cultivating these traits. I see dommes in their 60's and it is apparent I still have some learning to do.

I answer the same as I did with the sub retirement thread -- "Retire when it is no longer fun."

NEVER!!!

Or, at least while I am still alive...

I, for one, hope my favorite dommes session till I’m dead!