Keto & Sessioning...

Posted by: worm

Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 02:16 AM

In general, I think it's known that have at least a small meal or snack before a session is recommended to keep your blood sugar level in a good range. I'm curious if this still applies to when your body is in ketosis, where insulin levels tend are more stable and the body is able to run off of fat. Does anybody have an experience either playing in ketosis or playing someone who was in ketosis? Is eating before as critical? Does it impact ones ability to take pain or limit endurance?
Posted by: Cheyenne

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 03:28 AM

I did keto for about 6 months last year. I didn't play during this time. But, I did notice that when it came to physical exercise, I had plenty of energy. One of my friends does a bullet proof coffee before his work outs and, is good to go for most of the day.
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 10:31 AM

I have had a few subs recently tell me they were on the Keto diet but they probably followed my normal protocol of eating normally prior to session. Needless to say they did not present any problems. I hope someone with more experience with this will chime in because I would like to know too.

The Keto diet and any other high protein diet can make your breath smell awful so be considerate of your Mistress and eat a mint eek
Posted by: Cheyenne

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 11:24 AM

Interesting. I spend a lot of time with people on keto and, did it myself for the better part of a year. I've never noticed a bad breath issue. That could be a myth. It is difficult for me to do keto long term because I don't eat meat and, it gets difficult to push myself to eat fish. (Wimpy vegan, in my heart.) But, I've never noticed any ill side effects for myself or, anyone else, once they get through the first week of sugar detox. Hmmmm...interesting topic.
Posted by: Mistressnumber1

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 02:48 PM

The Bad breath comes from your body breaking down protein, it produces ammonia which causes terrible breath. These low carb diets can also cause ketoacidosis which is very dangerous.

I maintain a healthy balanced diet and get plenty of exercise walking from my car to McDonald's. grin
Posted by: Domina M

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 03:23 PM

Quote:
I don't eat meat and, it gets difficult to push myself to eat fish. (Wimpy vegan, in my heart.)


Ahahahahah. This is funny because I thought for a moment if the topic was going to be if golden showers from someone like me would be okay on a Keto diet. I am a "pescatarian" in that I am a vegetarian that eats fish, but I am trying to go to a more whole food, plant based diet. The Keto diet fascinates me, but I am not going to start eating only meat and cheese. Do tell how you did it.

And to the OP, yes come to session as centred as you can. I once had someone fast for 2 days, took some cold medicine and THEN had a glass of wine to calm his nerves before seeing me. He did not tell me any of this and passed out 20 minutes into a 5 hour session.
Posted by: Cheyenne

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 03:26 PM

Thanks for that post. It makes sense. I was talking to someone after reading the post about bad breath who said that he had experienced this. There are so many variations of the keto diet. What they do at a place in Costa Rica (Awesome place for keto, vegans and, juicers) is called a primal keto diet. They do medium protein, high fat - but good fat, like avocado, macadamia nuts, coconut milk, ect., no red meat, no dairy. I've seen it work wonders for people, without adverse symptoms. But, if people are using the keto diet as an excuse to load up on red meat and, tons of dairy fat, I can see where that would cause issues...and, probably more than bad breath.
Posted by: worm

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 03:38 PM

Thanks for the follow-up! i haven't any issues with bad breath, typically it's been less of an issue for me (i.e. no noticeable morning breath)...

i always double brush, mouthwash, and take breath fresheners for the entire route to serve anyway! smile
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/14/19 10:14 PM

Actually Kero is not a high protein diet like Atkins. It is low carb , moderate protein and very high fat albeit only good healthy fats.

I was seriously considering doing it and read a pro Keto book on it
“Keto Clarity “ by a guy named Jimmy Moore. It made a lot of sense and was logical but you can read other stuff by knowledgeable people which also make sense and make the case for Keto being unhealthy. Ultimately I decided not to do it for a number of reasons.

FWIW and I am certainly no expert but I think a lot of people do Keto for weight loss and I think it works but a lot of other Keto people do it as a healthy way of eating/lifestyle. Fat burning vs glucose burning makes sense but If you don’t need to lose weight and your blood work is good I’m not sure if it’s worth it to switch to Keto.
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/15/19 12:29 AM

Good information. Thanks!
Posted by: Mistress Ayn

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/15/19 12:36 AM

I read Mistressnumber1's post and your response. I bet the fact that you don't eat meat is a big factor.

You may or may not find this relevant: https://www.healthline.com/health/keto-breath

I call it dog breath ;-)
Posted by: Cheyenne

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/15/19 03:00 AM

After being vegan for most of my life, I started eating fish and, did the pescatarian route. There is a great health retreat in Costa Rica that specializes in "Primal Keto." They do farm raised chicken, eggs, seafood but, no dairy or, red meat. (I skipped chicken and, eggs.) Their fat comes from coconut milk, avocado, nuts, ect. (I visit them about 3 times a year. Amazing place.) I couldn't keep up with the keto diet eventually, simply because eating fish started to bother me. But, the primal keto diet, was the best I've felt in my adult life.

So, the man passed out 20 minutes into a 5 hour session? Oh no! Poor guy...but, I have to wonder what he was thinking. Fasting, cold medicine and, wine...it is a recipe for a nap.
Posted by: Domina M

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/15/19 04:21 AM

OMG. That retreat sounds amazing. I will have to look into it.

Yeah, that guy planned a total nap. Perhaps his actual fetish was to have a domme sit on the floor with him for an hour trying to re-hydrate him.
Posted by: Komodo

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/16/19 03:15 AM

This is funny. The only pescatarian I know is a good friend of mine and everybody (including me) make jokes on his account because he is rigid most of the times but makes some exceptions when he feels like it.

My diet is pretty similar, probably stricter during the week, but I am willing to abandon it during the week end, for social reasons.

I don't eat before sessions, but again I eat very little before evening during normal days. I drink strong coffees before and smoothies if I have to kill time, which is not unusual because I am usually early.
Posted by: Julia Steele

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/16/19 08:04 PM

I have several long term subs that went on the keto diet and maintained the same level of play (if not improved stamina due to weight loss) throughout. I've toyed around with it, and after I got over the first couple of days of sugar detox, my energy level went through the roof. No carb comas or sugar highs and lows to deal with, just sustained energy and mental clarity throughout the day. I am a life long vegetarian, and I find it easy to do the diet when I want to due to all the meat substitutes available. If I didn't love pasta, bread, and sweet wines so much, I would probably adopt the low carb lifestyle full time.
Posted by: Cheyenne

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/16/19 08:22 PM

What do you do for meat substitutes? As a vegetarian, that is where I struggle with keto. I don't do soy either. When I was doing fish, it was great...but, I just can't keep it up...always go back to vegan.
Posted by: Julia Steele

Re: Keto & Sessioning... - 08/16/19 08:33 PM

I went vegan for almost a year, but my hair started falling out and my skin was wack. Everyone reacts differently, I guess. Beyond Meat (they don't use soy) and Quorn make really good products, and of course the Impossible Burger is amazing.