Does America need to start using the term Bizarre Lady?

The designation seems to work well in Germany.

They use both Dominatrix and Bizarre Lady. Differentiating between those who ride the pony, and those who don't.


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The word "mistress" for the uninformed, could mean escort. "Bizarre Lady" for a woman involved in BDSM would seem, well, bizarre to me. A better term in English and the U.S. might be "Domina," hence the name of this site. Just my two cents.

Junglebeast,

I think what you meant and how I am reading what you said are two different things... It seems like you are saying that the term "Domina" means a Pro Domme who also offers sexual services as part of a session (which is what the term "Bizarre Lady" refers to so they can differentiate from just Pro Domme services).

Am I reading that right? Because I don't think that is what you meant at all.

Miss Rose,

I agree with you that it would be great to have a term to use for that kind of differentiation. However, I actually think that the term "Bizarre Lady" is a bastardization based on how it is pronounced... I believe the proper term was originally meant to be "Bazaar Lady".

Bizarre implies strangeness and something being "off" about a person, situation or behavior whereas a "Bazaar” is a marketplace where you have a bit of everything being sold. Based on the negative connotations of the term bizarre, I don't see it ever catching on in the US.

On the other hand, Ramona Ryder is the only Domme I know of who openly advertises and offers these combined services (unless you consider bondassage to be the same thing). She uses the term "kinky amour” to describe it:

https://www.ramonaryder.com/

Personally, I don't like that term either because it puts it way too much in the escort realm. The term "Full Service" might be useful as a term to differentiate the services provided (just like bondassage is). Unfortunately, I don't think that works as a title in the way that Bizarre Lady does so I don't have what I feel is a really good suggestion.

Germany does not criminalize prostitution the way we do here. We will never have any kind of clear cut language under criminalization because using it is too risky.

AspX, thanks for letting me clarify. I think "Domina" should be the term for a pro domme who performs BDSM acts WITHOUT sexual acts. The "Bizarre Ladies" reference really doesn't translate well into English.

As I said earlier, when someone outside the scene hears the term "mistress," that usually means a romantic, sexual relationship, a lot of times involving cash. I hope I cleared that up.

Concur

I always thought that was a strange term for a provider who does domination and who also engages in sexual acts. I figured it was a German or European term. Now it makes sense.

I agree. It would be nice to differentiate. Right now I think the closest we have is kinky escort but you seldom see that term used.

I think you said you spent time in England (I might have that wrong). When I visited there I was told that the word Dominatrix implied full service, where any other term, like Mistress, ProDomme, etc just meant BDSM services only. I found this very confusing.

This whole discussion really illustrates the point that words matter. And even if it is the same language, culture changes the meaning. In the U.S. I always thought that ladies describing themselves as a "Dominatrix," it not only meant BDSM services only, but that her practices were pretty severe. That's why an email and / or a phone conversation is vital to check out compatibility.