You are correct about both sides just going back and forth calling each other stupid. I just can’t read a lot of it. For a number of reasons I won’t bother to go into here on the bdsm forum this is a very polarising time in our country. I will say that imho Cheyenne is about the only one taking part in the political discussions who is open minded and objective about things and is the right choice to be the moderator.
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And still trying to figure it all out.................. buffalo