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#171 - 10/28/15 11:01 AM Nostalgia or "What happened to?"
junglepet Offline
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Registered: 10/27/15
Posts: 92
In the past couple of years I have long time Mistresses who have retired; moved out of state with haphazard visits to NYC making sessions tough; and another "domina/escort" is the best way to put it who I read from social media died recently.

I'm of a certain age and this has gotten me more than a little depressed and nostalgic. In thinking about the ladies I sessioned with over the years it seems like it was a dream. Did it happen?

So, especially for you NY oldtimers out there, any experiences with the following ladies? Do you know what became of them?
Betty Gordon (upper east side); had krista from LA work with her (1980s-early 90s)
Mistress Melora (90s to 2000s - independent upper east side)
Mistress Paloma (90s to 2000 - worked with Belle de Jour)
Mistress Gloria (80s to 90s - Belle's niece?)
Goddess Vegas "Lethal Leg Goddess" ('05 to '10, from Vegas but traveled here.)
All were special in their own ways. I expect none are active anymore.
One questions for Mistresses: Do you get nostalgic for a favorite sub or slave?

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#220 - 10/30/15 06:01 AM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
junglepet Offline
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Registered: 10/27/15
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Since the ladies I mentioned don't ring a "Belle" with anyone here - yeah the pun was bad - does anyone have "Whatever happened to?" questions?

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#468 - 11/22/15 02:28 AM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
homer44 Offline
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Registered: 11/05/15
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I sessioned with Mistress Paloma many times in the mid-late 80's-

-it was when I guess she first started out--

she was so wonderful, so sweet, and so down to earth.

She was also so beautiful!

I once asked her what her ethnic heritage was--

and she told me that she was "Spanish and Indian"--

I think she meant American Indian/ or Mayan Indian.

I believe she was Mexican/American

I remember her cute Spanish accent.

She told me that her real name was Vicky-

and that she had a vanilla job as a collections agent for a company.

After many sessions with her I had gotten out of the scene for a
few years to focus on my job and I tried some vanilla relationships.

But I would call her every so often-

I had her private phone number.

I was so torn-I needed her but at the same time I was afraid to start up again.

During one of those calls after I had stopped sessioning with her-

a few years had gone by already since I last saw her--

she told me over the phone that she had broken her leg in a car accident--
some jerk threw a brick off of an overpass that smashed her
windshield causing the accident--

and she asked me if she could live with me for a while until she mended -

she said that she wanted me to take care of her.

I balked-

I guess that I was afraid of the intimacy of living with my Mistress.

And to this day- I have regretted saying no to her.

I still dream of how wonderful it would have been to care for her in her time of need--

and even that we could have gotten married-

and that I could have been her slave/husband!

I wish that I could find her / reach out to her today-

But I'm sure that she is happily married/ happily retired-

the last thing she may want is to hear from a former slave- from her previous life.

I truly miss her and I wish her the best.

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#469 - 11/22/15 04:23 AM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
junglepet Offline
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homer44, Wow, what an experience! Let's see if this is the same Paloma. Remember I met her in the late '90s. She did know Belle since the '80s. When I knew her she was married, had a son around 10 or so and lived in the Bronx. Paloma was very intelligent and was in her early 30s then, I guess. She said she was Spanish, not Mexican or Puerto Rican. Her parents were dancers. She was 5' 5" or 5' 6", dark hair to her shoulders and a great figure - 38DD-24-36 or close to it. Belle owned a walk up dungeon in the late 90s on 14th and 6th where we sessioned at least a half dozen times. She was great with role play, and I eventually got her number too. She dropped out of the scene when she said her husband was very ill around 2000 or so, maybe '01. I sent her a tribute once to a PO Box to help her. She sounded terrible then, really broken up about her husband. In one of my "retirements" I got rid of her number and regret it to this day.

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#471 - 11/22/15 06:28 AM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
second try Offline
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Registered: 10/29/15
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Jungle Pet and Homer 44, Thanks for the memories. I was a regular at Belle's during some of the same time periods you are talking about. i remember the long flight of stairs one had to climb to access the facility on Third Avenue, and i remember the Ladies generally and some of them specifically, and the tactics they used to get me to be an ever more obedient slave and bdsm slut.

Mistress Paloma was one of them, and Mistress Gloria, Belle's niece(youngest sister?) another, to be sure. Mistress Vanessa, an Italian housewife from New Jersey, became my particular first choice. In the end She told all the other Mistresses when She knew i was coming in, just in case someone wanted to "double" with us - two sessions in the same room at the same time. It sounds more kinky than it actually was. i was really shy and reticent then. It was a pool i did not learn to swim in until i graduated from Vanessa, even though She was the instructress who brought me into the water so-to-speak.

Like the two of you, i also took many breaks and retirements from bdsm and lost contact with, and memories from, some of the favorite Dommes who had been there for me, when. Homer, your story about your adoration of Ms. Paloma was great. i also especially remember Ms. Crystal, also at Pandora's, a Swedish blonde flight attendant, in Her vanilla work, who was the first Lady to bring me to Hellfire and beyond; Ms. Natasha, Belle's Russian competitor, at Columbus Avenue in the west 70s, her very tall assistant, Mistress Amazon, the stocks and bonds in that facility and the furry hand cuffs they used. But Ms. Belle, the madam of Belle du Jour, was much more than a Mistress, She was a bdsm lifestyle advocate, a tough bitch to the Women who worked for Her, and at the same time a friend and guidance counselor to all who crossed Her path with regularity.

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#472 - 11/22/15 10:32 AM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
junglepet Offline
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Registered: 10/27/15
Posts: 92
second try, I trusted Belle so in my entries and exits from the scene I kept gravitating to her places - E. 13th, then a loft building on W. 17, W. 18?, then 3rd Ave. She was partners with someone on a three story building off of 7th and W. 18 in '95 or so then later on W. 14 when I met Paloma.
The last time I sessioned with Belle she answered the phone and I ran over there. She hadn't seen me in a decade by then and was surprised I was still in the scene. She recommended for me to see, but I talked her into a session. When we met in '73 or so I was 20 and she was late 40s. By '95 I was 42 and she was maybe 70. She still looked great - short blonde hair, curvy, busty. That day she had on boots, tight jeans, a black leather corset and a sport jacket over that. She said, "You want to see someone younger, I just answer the phones." Well she said yes. I got in a room and a few minutes later she came in, took off that sport jacket so I could see her cleavage and shoulders and she barked, "Strip for me slave! You know what I want!" and I was soon down to my thong. She hand spanked me, grabbed my nipples and crotch, all the while telling me I was a slut. She finally took pity on me and exposed her breasts and I was allow some brief worship. Then I was ordered to milk myself and I exploded. When the session ended she laughed and said I was still in good shape, especially my ass, and asked who was I seeing then recommended someone. It was brief, a half hour maybe, but highly seductive and erotic. What a pro.
second try - Was your Mistress Paloma the same one I described in an earlier post?
In the '80s I returned to Belle and she handed me off to Gloria who I served for parts of 2 years. Gloria was a very curvy, busty blonde with hair down to her shoulders and was around 40 then. Her eyes were large and almost hypnotic. She always wore a black corset, panty hose and either black high heels or boots. We went out for a Holiday lunch once and exchanged presents, then another couple of times I drove Gloria around Queens when she worked for a delivery service.
She NEVER went topless in session... except once. It was at the 3rd Ave. location and a secluded room off of the stage. She finally did and I was allowed brief worship. As I left that day Belle pulled me over and asked, "How was Gloria today?" I said, "Great. She finally went topless in session!" Belle was surprised and laughed, "I'm impressed. She never does that!" Eventually I left the scene and I heard that Gloria, who was dating one of her subs, married him, a guy in his late 20s.
I had one last session with her in the '90s in Queens when I answered an ad she place in one of the S&M tabloids. She was still gorgeous and highly seductive.
Ah memories!

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#478 - 11/22/15 05:51 PM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
second try Offline
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Junglepet, I am a few years older than you, and my periods of sessioning at Belle's places mirrored yours, some times in the 70s, sometimes in the 80s, and very occasionally in the 90s.

I sessioned only once in the wig store on 13th Street. It was my first experience with pro bdsm and I thought so little of it, I thought I would never return.

But, then, while I was a post grad student at a major university in NY, I met an undergraduate coed who needed "tutoring" from me, which I gladly offered in what became my first extracurricular fling, The coed - I later learned worked part time at the then new Belle du Jour on 17th Street and 3d Avenue.
That started me down that road.

Belle had a home on Fire Island. I knew Her from there also. When I saw Her in Her place of business, I never mentioned that I knew Her from our vanilla lives intersection too, and neither did She. But after Her first husband died, in the 80s, I think, we did talk privately about life and loves, Her sisters and nieces in the business with Her, and many other subjects beyond my sessioning and Her staff. I never sessioned with Her, I am not surprised that your session with Her was memorable. She was (s She still around, I think so?) a very charismatic person, and unforgettable in Her own way. I thought of Her as part "Gracie" (Gracie Allen from George Burns fame), part "Lucy" (Lucille Ball) and part Tip O'Neill, the former Speaker of the House for many years. She has O'Neill's management skills, Lucy's impertinence, and Gracie's feigned innocence, while always being the smartest person in the room.

She told me she could tell if a man was submissive after only talking to him for a few minutes, and that she and her sisters would sometimes play a game at family events of looking around the crowd to see which men were already clients and which were likely sub clients. She was a pisser.

I never served Mistress Paloma, I just remember Her name. In addition to Ms. Vanessa and Ms. Crystal, previously mentioned, there was Mistress Contessa, the loudest Domme in the entire world, and whose husband trusted Her not at all, so he drove Her to work and home from work, Mistress Leilah (the Lady who also worked at a major not for profit agency as its PR person, while moonlighting nights as a Domme, and likely several others whose names disappear in the fabric of a long complicated lifetime of some bdsm and many years without playing.

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#486 - 11/23/15 07:51 AM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
badboybuffalo Offline
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Registered: 10/20/15
Posts: 16
Loc: western new york state
Reading these posts about Belle De Jour's sure brought back some great memories. I remember one of my first sessions over at her place on 17th. St and later walking up that staircase on 3rd Avenue. One of my favorite Dommes during the 80's was Mistress Monique who really seemed to enjoy her work. Great memories indeed!

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#487 - 11/23/15 09:20 AM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
junglepet Offline
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Registered: 10/27/15
Posts: 92
The 17th St. & 3rd location is where Gloria eventually stopped sessioning. I called one day in '85 I think, after a hiatus of a year or two and I spoke to Belle. She wasn't sessioning then either. She asked me, "you want someone like Gloria?" I said yes but taller and bustier. (Could it have been second try's Swedish blonde flight attendant?) Maybe. She was a 6 ft. Amazon in heels who barely had on a faux fur bikini who grunted and yelled at me the whole time and, come to think of it was my first session with wrestling in it, her pinning me and me taking it. Saw her twice and then she left Belle's. It was brief but memorable.
Belle then pushed me to meet this tall, striking European woman with a wonderful accent. She was Mistress Ava Taurel who I served there and at her studio. But more about that later.

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#489 - 11/23/15 01:00 PM Re: Nostalgia or "What happened to?" [Re: junglepet]
second try Offline
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Registered: 10/29/15
Posts: 91
Almost no one knows or remembers that Ava Taurel began as a sub in Belle's establishment.

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