Do any of you put subs up by means of smothering? How long are they or deprived of oxygen?

Oh, obviously there are two different ways to put a person out, or two main categories. One is a blood type choke and the other is smothering or deprivation of oxygen by means of smothering, bagging, drowning or other similar means!

Knocking out? Choking out? This is totally not what I thought this thread would be about.

I understand this is RACK play, but perhaps I am too old school for this. I "toy" with a subject with breath play, including the pressure on the arteries/veins. I would never do this to a blackout. Over the decades, I have had people faint in session, and that is stressful enough. I've long existed in the grey area of the law and kept myself out of trouble. I'll go ahead and continue that trend.

Well, there are several different ways to put a guy out and we see them in the news or in bdsm videos, often. There is putting a guy out by means of a blood choke such as by scissoring and as seen in dozens and hundreds of vids by "scissorfoxes." There is scissoring and there is putting a guy out in the way that Daniel Penny put out the guy on the NY subway, except that Daniel Penny seems to have done things in a questionable way. But there are dozens of dommes and other knockout women who do this thing. And in addition to scissoring and a rear naked choke, there is smothering till a person is out and there is drowing till a person is out or underwater breath-holding. However, the underwater stuff seems to be made and sold by people who work or are trained as life-guards or first responders, working together with 1 or several female models who are willing to be underwater till they go out and knowing that they should be or will be resuscitated. So there is smothering, underwater holding, scissoring and rear-naked chokeholding. You folks perhaps have simply not seen the vids that much!

On Sunday or a few days ago I saw the movie Last Breath about a deep sea diver who was without oxygen for 29 minutes and brought back to life. The doctors or professionals have no good and sufficient expl as to why he is still alive and without any mental or physical damage, other than that the deep sea and cold temperatures may have interfered with the usual body deterioration! And a few years ago I saw the movie about rescuing the boys in the cave (not the one of the miners who were in some tunnel) or trapped. In order to get them out, the rescuers had to drug the "victims" so they would not struggle or have problems as they were being taken underwater to their rescue!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbfwRbQaDVU

talking to the drug guy about using drugs to effect the rescue of the boys in the cave.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JbL72KYnN3M

Hahahaha! I also was confused by the subject.



I'm with you on this.

ztrade is clearly an edge player -- or at least fantasizes about it.

I did a session once with someone who mostly did wrestling sessions. We did a role play where she had heard I was telling people I could beat her and she “challenged” me to a match. Within literally 5 seconds she had my neck in a leg scissor. I tapped out instantly or I definitely would have gone out. She released the hold as soon as I tapped.

Not my cup of tea (though that particular session was super hot and fun) but based on the reviews I read on Session Girls, there are a lot of mixed wrestlers who will knock you out if that’s what you want.

Oh and I too was taken aback by the subject line. lol

Wasn't there a lengthy article by well known BDSM educator Jay Wiseman some years ago stating there was totally NO safe way to practice breath play to the point of unconsciousness? I seem to recall him quoting several kink friendly MD's and reputable medical sources about how it was basically playing Russian roulette. You could perform the same activity 10 times exactly the same way and on the 11th the person could die without warning.

Found it...... https://www.evilmonk.org/a/breath.cfm

I enjoy some breath control/breath restriction (face sitting, gas masks. hoods etc) but neck compression or taking to the point of losing consciousness would be a hard no for me.