Thanks for the thoughtful input, buffalo. I find myself encountering more real world submissives these days - or at least guys trying to be real submissives - and I am spending more time with a select few of my own subs and I see their struggles. An example is attending FemDom retreats and seeing subs attempting to stay in the mindset for an extended period. Recently I suggested one of my boys consult with a very well trained submissive that has served his Domme for 8 plus years and is now in a 24/7 relationship with her. My guy came away from the discussion feeling so much better about his (our) situation and with some excellent coping mechanisms. It just made me wonder if others could benefit from this type of coaching.