I'm sad about Max going down for good. It's true that most of the dommes had departed (for good reason) and it was a forgone conclusion that one day it would go down and not come back up. Many times when it did, I wondered if that would be it. In later years, I derived the most value from speaking with other subs. I made some very good friends on Max, guys who I am still friends with today. In fact, I just spoke with one of them this morning. It's true there were some bad apples on MF, but there were also some really nice guys on that site. Many of them seem to have moved over here, so perhaps we've found a new home.