I do not mean to be disagreeable, but . . . there are dommes who clearly state that 1) either they do not allow for safewords in any session or 2) they do do CNC sessions . . . Some of these dommes are nationally travelled and nationally known or internationally known.

Some of the dommes or mistresses have in fact posted on maxfisch but whether any of them have posted in this forum, I do not know.

Here is one example, from the website of a fairly well known mistress/domme . . .

She says . . . I am "one of the [lovers] of corporal punishment . . . I do nt see first time players. . . I d’t permit safe words. . ."

She is American domme or mistress who has not been arrested or had legal problems from sessions, so far as we know, and who links with and does doubles with others who post on maxfisch, among other locations.

I have edited the quotations from her website so as to temporarily obscure who it is--but you would know it immediately if you have been to her site and have read through her introduction and interests.

Right now, a person who copies the above in quotes will get few or no "hits" in a search engine, but by adding back the missing words . . . you will then bring up pages re parental spanking or her website . . .

Maybe she is breaking the law in half her sessions, but no one gets to complaining!

The one with saying she does not allow for safewords or there are no safewords in a corp punishment sesh is a little unusual cause she is so blunt and direct . . . but there seem to be others and I have seen 1 or more of them, who either have a no safeword policy or do CNC sessions in which they won't stop till they feel they are done or you are done.

There are people such as I who would tend to see such mistresses and I am pretty sure there are a dozen or so on each coast. Given the clips4sale of another one a few miles from the one I am quoting . . . either she is lying about some of her sessions or there are many which are nonconsensual with a guy having asked her to stop at some point.