There is a thread at maxfisch discussing the relationship between humiliation and degradation . . . Here is my post in the thread. The question, among several, is how we understand the word degradation, since most dommes use degradation as a way of referring to toilet!

I think that for most dommes and most subs, humiliation and degradation are overlapping, but not the same thing. Also, for some dommes, degradation is a way of saying making you a toilet, without being completely obvious. Now, I know there are a few dommes who have their website and they say they do degradation and toilet scenes are a limit for them and, supposedly, they do not do them.

So, does that mean that they degrade the guy differently, or, they make the guy a toilet by surprise, when he has asked for degradation and not given much limit?