OMG talk about irony on this subject. The Dr. Phil (one of the most pompous people on the planet I know) show today had a set of Female triplets one of which has a boyfriend who is clearly a masochist. They are discussing how it works, as the two other sisters think he's a bad guy/freak due to his fetishes. That's how i ended up recording the show - key word "fetish" I record all. The Woman in question had her expensive shoes taken by the boyfriend and used/ruined for his sub/masochistic pleasures with another Woman (Domme?). i'm in the middle of watching the episode, but will report back further another time with what "Dr" Phil has to say. Said Girlfriend has tried to satisfy some of his kinks such as stepping on him, his face, and his balls.