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#12775 - 01/05/21 01:49 AM Why No Forced Straight?
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Ever wonder why forced bi is a big thing in femdom but forced straight isn't in gay porn? I find it entirely curious. Any thoughts?

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#12781 - 01/05/21 10:08 AM Re: Why No Forced Straight? [Re: Cheyenne]
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Originally Posted By Cheyenne
Ever wonder why forced bi is a big thing in femdom but forced straight isn't in gay porn? I find it entirely curious. Any thoughts?

My opinion: subs who like forced bi are actually bisexual but could find it humiliating (so, exciting) and/or hard to take on, because of our societys' homophobia. That's why they would need the forced part to live that part of their sexuality. Forced bi somehow is a repressed bisexuality.

Homosexual people probably just don't care about forced straight because they somehow already overrided the weigh of the society. If you are strong enough to show in broad daylight that you are gay, you won't find it difficult to have straight fantasies, so you won't need the forced part to cope with that part of yourself. Forced straight then is of no interest to them.


Edited by BDSAIME (01/05/21 10:16 AM)
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#12782 - 01/05/21 11:21 AM Re: Why No Forced Straight? [Re: Cheyenne]
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My guess is the stigma some have on being straight versus gay. I think more people would frown upon a married straight guy doing “gay” sexual acts than a gay man being with a girl. So the taboo is there and BDSM is so much about the taboo.
My stupid issue is the transsexual gurls muck it all up.

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#12785 - 01/05/21 08:27 PM Re: Why No Forced Straight? [Re: Cheyenne]
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Originally Posted By Cheyenne
Ever wonder why forced bi is a big thing in femdom but forced straight isn't in gay porn? I find it entirely curious. Any thoughts?


This is an interesting but complicated topic. I will not be giving it the full analysis it deserves.

Oversimplifying and freely admitting that I never did it but have occasionally mildly fantasized about it, I see Forced Bi having two basic forms

The first is that it is a mostly maso X forces one to do Y fantasy where X involves a lot of pain while Y is something that makes you psychologically uncomfortable

In the second form the sub is Bi Curious but camouflages that with an elaborate role play which is less masochistic and more submissive than the first version

If some sub has done it and thinks he fits in neither of those 2 categories I would be happy to hear his phenomonology

Turning to gays I think straight sex lacks a repulsiveness similar to what gay sex has for many straight men. Quite a few have actually experimented with it. It's just that they derive little or no enjoyment from it. In this case Y is oh so boring. For the minority who do find it repulsive it's usually due to gay misogyny rather than a cultural taboo.

That's from the perspective of a participant. From the perspective of the porn viewer if he is the type who thinks straight sex is blah he's going find the clip uninteresting. If he is a gay misogynist he is going to be angry.

Interestingly a few years ago I read a good sized essay who divided gays into groups. The criterion he used was to have them watch a clip which was purely gay sex but in which a woman pops up in a nonsexual way. For a majority of the viewers the woman was irrelevant to their enjoyment. But there was a sizable minority who felt she completely ruined the clip for them.



Edited by The Thomas (01/05/21 08:43 PM)

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#12787 - 01/06/21 03:56 AM Re: Why No Forced Straight? [Re: BDSAIME]
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Interesting line of thought. What you say makes sense. Most of the men I've known through the scene or filmed with that are into "Forced" bi, would never date a man but, do have a sexual arousal from it. So, yes, being "Forced" to do something you really want to do probably does alleviate any self shaming.

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#12788 - 01/06/21 03:57 AM Re: Why No Forced Straight? [Re: Jiminhales]
Cheyenne Offline

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This makes sense. And, yes, the transsexual gurls do muck it all up. That is a whole other world to ponder. lol.

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#12789 - 01/06/21 04:06 AM Re: Why No Forced Straight? [Re: The Thomas]
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"The criterion he used was to have them watch a clip which was purely gay sex but in which a woman pops up in a nonsexual way. For a majority of the viewers the woman was irrelevant to their enjoyment. But there was a sizable minority who felt she completely ruined the clip for them."

This is particularity interesting. I've seen a bit of both. Porn aside, there is an element of misogamy among some gay men. Other gay men adore women and want to be one of them. As it relates to porn, when SubbyHubby was shooting hardcore cuckolding and "Forced" bi scenes, usually everyone was having a blast. It was more like tri sexual scenes than anything else. For the most part, the attitude among the people we shot with was, "Is it sexual? Then let's do it. Girl, boy, whatever." Once we shot with a gay man who was horrified at getting close to a vagina. "I haven't been that close to one of those things since birth!" He was pretty distraught, off camera. After that we made sure to vet the paid talent that agents sent to us.

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