So, when you folks use the phrase "ruin you" or "ruin someone" or speak of ruination, what do you tend to mean, if I may ask? Does the phrase usually mean getting a guy to enjoy and want to such cock and eat come or does it mean a lot of other things, also?

Though, when I asked about the possible meanings of this at maxfisch, one interesting answer included the following . . .

I enjoy "ruining" my submissives in many ways.

1) ruined expectations: destroying their ideas of what is and isn't possible. this almost always has powerfully cascading consequences for their sense of themselves/their control. There is little that pleases me more than this.

2) ruined self-image: men who would've never imagined being someone or doing something find themselves desperately becoming it and begging to continue doing it, for Me.

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"Ruining" can mean as many things as there are dominas and submissives. I think it means that a sub finally does something he or she never ever wanted to do, then did it for the Mistress. And then continues to do that activity because it not only gives the Mistress pleasure but the sub becomes turned onto it too.

That is correct, junglepet. you nailed it. I couldn't have put it more succinctly Myself.

Thank you Mistress Ayn for your compliment. After all the years in the scene with various "retirements" I am really more of a vanilla role play sub than the many subs who engage in activities I would never consider. In my alter ego I can be entertaining and imaginative, or so I've been told.

I was - still am - so enraptured with a particular domina, now retired, that I wanted her to take me with a strap on. A small one, since I was inexperienced. I was in such deep sub space over the years I was inventing things she might like to do to me. She did the opposite of "ruining" me. She said on a phone call planning a scene, "No, you'll only get squirrelly on me." But in the next session without warning she did baptize my torso and groin with her golden essence which was highly erotic since it was a such a surprise.