So, when you folks use the phrase "ruin you" or "ruin someone" or speak of ruination, what do you tend to mean, if I may ask? Does the phrase usually mean getting a guy to enjoy and want to such cock and eat come or does it mean a lot of other things, also?

Though, when I asked about the possible meanings of this at maxfisch, one interesting answer included the following . . .

I enjoy "ruining" my submissives in many ways.

1) ruined expectations: destroying their ideas of what is and isn't possible. this almost always has powerfully cascading consequences for their sense of themselves/their control. There is little that pleases me more than this.

2) ruined self-image: men who would've never imagined being someone or doing something find themselves desperately becoming it and begging to continue doing it, for Me.

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