Why would one expect civilized behavior in a political forum when the politicians who are most popular are those who are the least civilized?

Lively debate and friendly fire is one thing. Name calling, stalking other posters, threats, ect. are not okay. I've seen that happen across the board and not just in political areas. Most ladies here can attest to the ugly side of MF in the lobby on prodom topics.

I don't have a horse in the race here. My opinion is that there should a spill over political section for when topics turn political in the lobby or health section. I also don't see it as a huge deal either way. Whatever the admin does on this subject, I will support. All I'd ask for is moderation that doesn't tolerate malicious trolls.

Only with strong moderation - cancel posting to threads that run amok, warning then deleting users who are abusive.

Both will happen.

Honestly speaking, a politics board can create a really toxic environment that is unnecessary (IMO but everyone's mileage differs.)

I didn't post in the politics section on MF–just reading through it was like watching a severely degrading shit slinging fest. I personally would vote not to create one here, especially as people become more and more polarized to the point of being uncivil in their ability to tolerate a different opinion. It was also quite bitter to see the same men that swear to respect women, degrade women.


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My initial response to this proposal was indifference but on further reflection am tilting negative. My concern is that the moderation on the Politics Forum is likely to become heavier and heavier. This is likely to spillover into the Lobby. I have nothing against moderation per se but there are several sites where it has gone down a slippery slope and become stifling overmoderation. I don't want that to happen here.

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As a non American I really wouldn't care and could obviously just avoid such a forum. However, I would worry a bit that rancor there might carry over to the rest of the site.

I don't read every post here, but it occurred to me that I haven't seen any trolls here since the Politics forum was removed.

I was under the impression that you moderated the Politics forum was here, saw that it was a disaster, and asked for it to be removed.

The moderators had limited rights. I had no ability to suspend or ban posters. Even when horrible things were being said, if I removed a post, it was a big deal and frowned on. I'm all for light moderation. It isn't okay to censor someone because you don't like their opinions or temperament. But, when posters show up, laugh about switching screen names to "Play a joke," insult everyone and gloat about the havoc they are causing something needs to be done. I wasn't able to do that. In all of the years that I was a moderator on MF, I never had to ban, suspend or even warn anyone. Yet, if memory serves, you said, on MF, that you had asked the admin here not to let me moderate and said I would be heavy on censorship. If this was the case, perhaps he was overly cautious in restricting me from responsible moderation. Please correct me if I am wrong on this. But, Soapy, I remember you saying this openly on MF. There was no basis for it. On any given topic, Femdom related, health, politics, ect., I'm all for open conversation....just not trolling with malicious intention.

In the end, I did want it taken down because the MF trolls were out of control and my hands were tied. It was actually going well until they showed up. It would have been better to have just suspended the trolls in the hope that they would reign in their malicious behaviors or leave the site. Removing the forum was not my first choice.