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#18816 - 05/07/23 09:42 PM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: FleeceJohnson]
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Registered: 02/21/19
Posts: 46
Most Dommes I know will do 60-90 minutes, so not sure where or what you're referencing.
BUT, in fairness to the Mistresses that I see, not sure why on earth you'd want only 60 minutes, and I'm afraid my mind ventures to persons that may not be good for the Mistress and their reviews/safety.

Maybe that's not fair or accurate, but the Mistresses I frequent tear me up for 3 hours and leave me wanting more,

I'd say think about what you want, maybe Pro-Dommes really aren't what you seek?

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#18827 - 05/10/23 06:47 AM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Bladezeus]
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I decided to stop doing anything less than 2 hours at the beginning of 2020. At that time, I found most of my sessions were 2 hours or longer anyways. And the ones coming in at any less than 2 hours usually came with a huge menu of activities they expected me to carry out in just one hour.

The preparation time and clean up after is the same for a 1 hour booking or a 5 hour booking. Plus I found 1 hour sessions too rushed. So now it's 2 hours minmimum and there's no going back for me now...

And with the fan club phenomenon, most days I earn more than what my one hour rate was. So it doesn't make sense for me to spend all the time communicating, preparing and cleaning up after for the same income.
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#18833 - 05/10/23 09:20 AM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Bladezeus]
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Registered: 04/28/23
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Hi

not only many Dommes require to have multi hour sessions, I have noticed another trend that are happening. Many Dommes are now requiring higher and outrages deposits amounts which some require 50% of your tribute as a deposit and then pay the other 50% of the tribute to them when you meet them. Some, would say a 25% deposit is required or 1,000.00 deposits. Now I do support and understand why deposits are needed but why charge so much. I remember paying a deposit of $50.00 which is reasonable and you can deduct that amount from your tribute payment.

I met one Mistress who charged me %75.00 for my first session with her. Then I received an email from her that she was in town and wouldl like to know if I wanted to meet with her and I responded yes. well, then brought up that I had to pay the $75.00 dollar deposit again. I asked her is this an ongoing thing every time I meet with her and she replied yes. To me that is a little too much. One time deposit I get but having to pay deposits each time I meet with her that is way bit to much for.

As I said I do support deposits it is to wean out those time wasters or to cover those who don't show up at all.

As for Multi hours..I prefer to meet with a mistress for two hours it gives me and her enough time to get know each other and have a blast of a session.

Cheers folks

Paulie

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#18836 - 05/10/23 01:58 PM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Lady Bellatrix]
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Registered: 11/02/15
Posts: 778
Loc: Philadelphia
Originally Posted By Lady Bellatrix
I decided to stop doing anything less than 2 hours at the beginning of 2020. At that time, I found most of my sessions were 2 hours or longer anyways. And the ones coming in at any less than 2 hours usually came with a huge menu of activities they expected me to carry out in just one hour.


I have a similar experience in that I don't often have someone booking under 2 hours, except one regular who books 90 minutes every month. One-hour sessions are getting rarer and rarer, though I still offer them. I just am pretty strict about what I'm willing to try to accomplish in the time the client is requesting.

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The preparation time and clean up after is the same for a 1 hour booking or a 5 hour booking. Plus I found 1 hour sessions too rushed.


My prep time isn't like yours. Prepping for for one-hour of play is definitely easier than four, for example. But I agree that one-hour sessions are almost always too rushed, unless the client just wants something like a spanking.

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And with the fan club phenomenon, most days I earn more than what my one hour rate was. So it doesn't make sense for me to spend all the time communicating, preparing and cleaning up after for the same income.


I don't currently have a set up like this but if I did I'm sure it would affect the way I work.

People have unrealistic expectations for us Dommes. They expect us to do too much in a short amount of time, put up with all the things we do while doing it, including take on all the responsibility and legal risk in doing this work -- and they want us to do it for $100 an hour. LOL


Edited by Mistress Tissa (05/10/23 02:13 PM)

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#18837 - 05/10/23 02:10 PM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Paulie]
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Registered: 11/02/15
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Loc: Philadelphia
Originally Posted By Paulie
I have noticed another trend that are happening. Many Dommes are now requiring higher and outrages deposits amounts which some require 50% of your tribute as a deposit and then pay the other 50% of the tribute to them when you meet them. Some, would say a 25% deposit is required or 1,000.00 deposits. Now I do support and understand why deposits are needed but why charge so much. I remember paying a deposit of $50.00 which is reasonable and you can deduct that amount from your tribute payment.


If you have to pay the tribute anyway what's the problem with a larger deposit?

I charge 50%. I make absolutely no apologies for this. Why? Everything I put into preparing for each of my clients is worth more than an insulting $50 if the client decides that he doesn't feel like showing up.

And you know what? In over 8 years I've never had a single no show, I have pages of 5-star reviews justifying my deposit protocol, and I haven't grown resentful from selling myself short and asking for only $50 to cover the four hours of prep I may have to do for your amazing scene because some guys are uncomfortable being asked to step up and show the same level of commitment to our scene as I do.

Sweetie, I'm a FemDom, not a servant.

Will some clients decline to session with me because they don't want to pay 50% of their tribute up front? Yep. But this is not anything I concern myself with. As cliche as it may sound, I honest-to-goodness believe it's their loss.

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As I said I do support deposits it is to wean out those time wasters or to cover those who don't show up at all.


...except you don't, when it comes down to it.

It sounds like you are one of those "but I'm not a time waster and I should be an exception!" types. Which, you realize, is what everyone believes about themselves.


Edited by Mistress Tissa (05/10/23 02:17 PM)

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#18840 - 05/11/23 08:48 AM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Mistress Tissa]
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Assuming the Domme has a good online presence and a solid reputation I have no issues with a deposit. I would imagine no shows can be the bane of a Domme's existence and represent a significant loss of income. Like lawyers, doctors and accountants, a Domme's time has zero value once the that time has past.

As to some Dommes requiring longer sessions, I never book less than 2-3 hour sessions so it's really not an issue that concerns me.

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#18841 - 05/11/23 10:51 AM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Paulie]
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Registered: 06/29/19
Posts: 50
Originally Posted By Paulie
Hi

I have noticed another trend that are happening. Many Dommes are now requiring higher and outrages deposits amounts which some require 50% of your tribute as a deposit and then pay the other 50% of the tribute to them when you meet them.

Some, would say a 25% deposit is required or 1,000.00 deposits. Now I do support and understand why deposits are needed but why charge so much. I remember paying a deposit of $50.00 which is reasonable and you can deduct that amount from your tribute payment.

One time deposit I get but having to pay deposits each time I meet with her that is way bit to much for.



I've been playing with the same incredible Domme for more than 4 years now. We have developed a deep and intimate trust. Yet, she still requires a 50% deposit for all sessions. I have absolutely no problem with it. Why should I? When I book its because I absolutely want/need to see her. I also understand that, while we have built a solid relationship, I am a client and she is running a business. This is her choice and her policy, so why should I think I'm so special that the rules don't apply to me? I'm going to pay the tribute anyway, so what's the difference doing half now and half later???

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#18842 - 05/11/23 11:19 AM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Mistress Tissa]
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Loc: Paris, France
Originally Posted By Mistress Tissa
Originally Posted By Lady Bellatrix
I decided to stop doing anything less than 2 hours at the beginning of 2020. At that time, I found most of my sessions were 2 hours or longer anyways. And the ones coming in at any less than 2 hours usually came with a huge menu of activities they expected me to carry out in just one hour.


I have a similar experience in that I don't often have someone booking under 2 hours, except one regular who books 90 minutes every month. One-hour sessions are getting rarer and rarer, though I still offer them. I just am pretty strict about what I'm willing to try to accomplish in the time the client is requesting.

Quote:
The preparation time and clean up after is the same for a 1 hour booking or a 5 hour booking. Plus I found 1 hour sessions too rushed.


My prep time isn't like yours. Prepping for for one-hour of play is definitely easier than four, for example. But I agree that one-hour sessions are almost always too rushed, unless the client just wants something like a spanking.

Quote:
And with the fan club phenomenon, most days I earn more than what my one hour rate was. So it doesn't make sense for me to spend all the time communicating, preparing and cleaning up after for the same income.


I don't currently have a set up like this but if I did I'm sure it would affect the way I work.

People have unrealistic expectations for us Dommes. They expect us to do too much in a short amount of time, put up with all the things we do while doing it, including take on all the responsibility and legal risk in doing this work -- and they want us to do it for $100 an hour. LOL


I concur with all of your statements. You are a wise lady laugh
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#18843 - 05/11/23 11:34 AM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Paulie]
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Registered: 11/03/15
Posts: 495
Loc: Paris, France
Originally Posted By Paulie
Hi

not only many Dommes require to have multi hour sessions, I have noticed another trend that are happening. Many Dommes are now requiring higher and outrages deposits amounts which some require 50% of your tribute as a deposit and then pay the other 50% of the tribute to them when you meet them. Some, would say a 25% deposit is required or 1,000.00 deposits. Now I do support and understand why deposits are needed but why charge so much. I remember paying a deposit of $50.00 which is reasonable and you can deduct that amount from your tribute payment.

I met one Mistress who charged me %75.00 for my first session with her. Then I received an email from her that she was in town and wouldl like to know if I wanted to meet with her and I responded yes. well, then brought up that I had to pay the $75.00 dollar deposit again. I asked her is this an ongoing thing every time I meet with her and she replied yes. To me that is a little too much. One time deposit I get but having to pay deposits each time I meet with her that is way bit to much for.

As I said I do support deposits it is to wean out those time wasters or to cover those who don't show up at all.

As for Multi hours..I prefer to meet with a mistress for two hours it gives me and her enough time to get know each other and have a blast of a session.

Cheers folks

Paulie


Back in 2015, I used to charge only £50 deposit per session. But one month, I had 5 cancellations. You might think, oh lucky her she just earned £250 for doing nothing. But the loss of income greatly outweigths the pittance for the cancellation.

Especially when on tour, this puts a major dent in profit margins and doesn't leave time to find someone else to fill the missed appointment.

Even at a 50% non refundable deposit, I still have at least one cancellation every month. All of them tend to be last minute.

As for asking a deposit from a client every time they session, I also do this from experience (ie loss of income). The amount of new clients I trusted after them paying a deposit the first time, then cancelling at the last minute the second time without one also warrants my requirement of paying a deposit every time.

At the end of the day, we're running a business here. We have certain proceedures in place for a reason.

I also detect a tone of resentment in your post. If you're really that butt hurt about folowing a woman's protocols, maybe Femdom isn't for you...
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#18851 - 05/14/23 07:51 PM Re: Multi-hour sessions are now basically required if you want any chance of sessioning [Re: Lady Bellatrix]
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Registered: 11/02/15
Posts: 778
Loc: Philadelphia
Originally Posted By Lady Bellatrix
I concur with all of your statements. You are a wise lady laugh


Thank you, Lady Bellatrix. Though I would say I'm more of a badass bitch than a lady. wink

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